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Why are we doing this?

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I am coming for you.

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Jono, what is this?

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Okay.

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Yeah, this box is like,

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there's holes in it.

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What happened to you?

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In order to get into a package with a screw,

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first, you just, you just give it a poke.

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Power cord, webcam, okay.

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Cable management clip, keyboard and mouse.

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This, ew, this weighs nothing.

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Is there anything in here?

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So there's the power cable.

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It feels like it was half the weight.

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So this, this box lied.

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We're supposed to have a keyboard and a mouse in here.

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Oh, some items may be in separate packaging.

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Okay.

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This actually feels like a hefty keyboard.

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Oh, nevermind.

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Wow, that's substantial for such a slim keyboard.

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They actually, yeah, they don't feel bad.

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Like I don't like this style of keys

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for a desktop keyboard anyway,

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but for what it is, it's not bad.

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Plus you've got brightness controls and stuff,

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basically like Apple.

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It looks nicer than the Apple Magic Keyboard.

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You think that this looks nicer than like aluminum?

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Yes.

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You think it, okay.

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I'm just gonna, just gonna grab it.

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Looks pretty nice,

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but I think the only reason it looks glossy

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is because I'm pretty sure there's a peel under here.

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How about the back?

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Okay, so we've got actually a fairly substantial amount

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of IO here.

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We've got, there's our power.

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Jono clarified that this is in fact, Gigabit Ethernet.

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Which makes sense.

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This should be HDMI 2.1 because I see here,

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there's a little sticker for GeForce RTX graphics

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along with, I believe that's 12th gen core.

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Let's, no?

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11th gen.

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But what are we doing reviewing this thing, Jono?

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Oh, right.

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We're unboxing it.

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Why are we unboxing last year's tech?

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So we got three super speed USB ports.

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Those are not colored correctly,

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but nobody cares anymore, apparently.

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Two Thunderbolt ports.

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That's pretty sweet.

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Have a Thunderbolt dock

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if your onboard graphics aren't enough.

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Plus we have a, I guess that's a headset jack.

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There's more.

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Look at this.

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There's actually IO on the stand.

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We got two more USB ports, another type C port.

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Not sure, I can't see from here

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if that's Thunderbolt or not.

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And also what looks like an SD card reader.

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That's really cool.

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I can't help but notice

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that there's another little thing down here.

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Now, normally what this kind of thing conceals is more IO.

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Maybe there's actually even more than we've already seen.

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So I'm just going to grab this and pull it off.

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That was entirely tool-less.

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It's actually magnetic a little bit, I think.

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It's like, yeah, it's magnetic.

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It stays up like that.

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Then you just clip it in on either side.

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It's going to make a liar out of me now.

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Yeah, just go ahead and yank on this.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, just give it a yank.

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Oh, that's fun.

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Oh wow, it's really easy.

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Yeah.

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Only 16 gigabytes.

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16.

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Well, I told you, this is last year's tech.

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Why are we unboxing last year's tech?

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We need 32 gigs at minimum

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and we need 12th gen core at minimum.

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And we also need all Thunderbolt 4 ports.

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Every one of the USB type A ports

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needs to be 10 gigabits per second.

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And we need to get 10 gigabit Ethernet as well on here.

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And if that HDMI port isn't 2.1 compliant,

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I am coming for you.

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I didn't know he actually, he ordered it.

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Really?

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Yeah, I did order it.

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Why?

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It looked cool.

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It's just too bad.

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Hey, at least you can upgrade the RAM.

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Yeah, you can upgrade the RAM.

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There are two NVMe ports on there, I think,

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or maybe one is NVMe and one is SATA.

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I'll have to take a look and see.

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I mean, it doesn't tilt or anything,

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but it does go up and down.

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Doesn't really do side to side.

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Apple could take notes like this one right here.

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Yeah, and in fact, Apple used to be pretty easy.

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There was a button you pushed.

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It opened a door.

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Apple, why can't you do this anymore?

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Why are we doing this?

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Why?

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Apple used to care.

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Oh yeah, the power cord.

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It came in a whole separate box, the power cord.

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Like it wasn't attached to the back of the monitor.

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I didn't have to like check whether or not I was sane

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looking at the back of the monitor.

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Like what is that on the back of the monitor?

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Could that possibly be a power cable?

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Where's the power cable?

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Oh, it is in fact on the back of the monitor.

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Why?

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I don't know.

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Hey, let's try taking it off.

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You can't?

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Oh, watch this.

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There you go.

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Watch that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And you know what?

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If I, oh, there's actually a little tab here

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and I'm not sure why.

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Cause it's gonna have to come this way, right?

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Wait, what?

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It's not a full peel.

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Is this just glossy?

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It's really glossy.

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It needs a wipe.

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Oh, I didn't even notice this.

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Is that a wireless charging dock?

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How useful.

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So you just throw your phone there,

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which you're probably gonna do anyway, let's be honest.

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And it'll charge.

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Oh man, there's no way I can make this thing look good.

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Like even if, like, just look.

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Looking at it.

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Every time I look at it, there's another streak.

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And it's like, where are these coming from?

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I don't understand.

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I have yet to see a power button.

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Maybe that's where the key,

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like maybe it's the keyboard that does that?

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Computer on.

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Can you see where we can turn, how to turn this on?

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Oh, I love a challenge.

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Well, if I can't turn this on, I guess I'm screwed.

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How could there not be an obvious power button?

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This is insane.

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Maybe, okay, maybe there's something under,

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like on the underside of it, like if we tip it over.

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You know what, we're getting desperate, so.

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No.

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It took me a while to find it.

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No, I touched, I touched there.

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I don't feel anything there.

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It's the tiniest button ever.

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They could have it pulse light or something,

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so you'd know.

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The dongle does appear to be built in,

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so I don't need these.

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Okay, so what is this?

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It's.

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It's mad at you.

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It doesn't like your phone.

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Clearly.

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Yeah, okay, so I guess it doesn't wanna charge my phone.

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Why?

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Yeah, let me try my phone.

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It's smaller.

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Oh, and the webcam, right.

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How could I forget the webcam?

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Whoa, what?

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Yeah, that's a thing.

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Now, why are you unboxing things?

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Because I don't really get this privilege

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being kind of stuck in my corner full of Apple products.

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It's probably at least partially magnetic, isn't it?

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Yeah, it is magnetic, but it's.

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Yeah.

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Why would you do that?

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Tell me what you think.

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I like a chunky webcam.

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There's something substantial about it.

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I would prefer a chunky webcam that looks good

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to a sling webcam that doesn't.

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Yes, yes.

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Also, here's something we can do about that.

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Hey, hold on, let me add this, add this.

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Just goes right into these holes,

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and once it's all the way in,

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it is held together with those magnets.

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Yeah, this is a 4K ultra wide, is what this is.

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It's 2160p tall, 5120 pixels wide.

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Let's see.

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HDR compliant.

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It doesn't look like it is.

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God, why would you maximize a window

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across an ultra wide like this?

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So they call this a 5K panel.

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Not true.

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This is anti-glare.

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They definitely failed on the anti-glare.

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I don't really see any effort put into anti-glare here.

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No?

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Like I don't really see any like frosting

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or anything like that.

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No.

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In some cases, if you've got a lot of ambient light,

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but not a lot of direct light,

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a glossy screen can be more readable than a matte screen.

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But if you do have direct light,

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like a window or studio lighting coming in at you,

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then you're going to see shadows

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and all sorts of other stuff.

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But get out of here.

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What was this used for?

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Get out of here.

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You're adding nothing.

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Welcome to today's episode of Pack Address,

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where we talk about Hewlett Packard devices.

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So this, okay, straight away, laptop GPU.

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So they definitely do not have a desktop class GPU in here.

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The CPU, yes.

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But it checks out.

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I mean, the display in this lighting, it's difficult to tell,

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but it looks pretty good to me.

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So far from what I've heard of the little Windows chimes,

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the speakers are rather nice.

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They are by Bang & Olufsen.

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I see we've got McAfee LiveSafe pre-installed.

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What else do we have here?

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Adobe Offers, MyHP.

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Okay, so MyHP is probably fine.

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Dropbox promotion, why?

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Anyway, they got Duet Display, which is interesting,

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which means you could use Duet Display to use a tablet

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or some other machine to extend your display,

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your desktop onto.

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This mouse is actually a problem.

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Like I'm sitting here trying to set up OBS

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so I can screen record for you guys.

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And like the tracking sensitivity is not good enough.

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Basically, I went down, hit apply or okay, and I hit cancel,

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just because like the tracking is so weird.

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Yeah, it's really good.

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I don't think it has local dimming,

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but the contrast ratio and the brightness

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is actually pretty good.

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It gives a fake effect of HDR just looking at it like this

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as a result of that.

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Because it has that 500 nit peak brightness,

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it's the same as the Apple Studio display.

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So it looks really good,

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but it doesn't have that HDR tone mapping, you know?

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Just as Alex walks in.

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Oh, wow.

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It doesn't get as loud as I thought it would,

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but the top end is pretty sharp.

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It's not terrible.

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High is really good, mid's really good.

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The sound, like the bass is, it's good,

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but it's like, it doesn't go too far down.

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Like, you know?

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Yeah.

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It's, it doesn't have...

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It's not rumbling your butt.

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Yeah, well, they got the,

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oh, they got a bang on the Olsen sound control.

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Oh, the bass is cranked a little bit.

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It's at 69%.

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Nice.

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So what if I were to turn all of this off?

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What does it sound like now?

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Turn it back on.

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The stock setting is actually pretty good.

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Oh, nice.

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They do have it.

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The display control.

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That's what I wanted.

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What I really like is that you can do the auto color,

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because then you can go from like Lightroom

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to your websites and stuff,

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and it'll automatically switch like SRGB and Adobe RGB.

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All right, let us try out that webcam.

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Okay.

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Oh, hey, it's got facial recognition.

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It knows when people are in frame.

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It looks like it's doing autofocus a lot,

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which is kind of weird.

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And there's Jono.

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Oh, I can set the autofocus.

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Set where it should be.

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Oh, I see.

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So it actually has like kind of a built-in ring light.

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That's interesting.

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I'm not sure how actually useful it is,

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but I guess it's better than nothing.

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What do we have here?

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Oh, okay.

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So I can adjust the aperture of it.

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I can adjust the temperature of it.

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So that's warm.

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And that's cool.

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That actually does make a difference.

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It auto rotated.

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What?

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Whoa.

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Is that built into Windows?

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Yeah, you can just have,

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you can straight up just have it down there.

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In fact, there's a reason why it's a little bit,

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a little bit halo-y.

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And we forgot to do a peel.

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You're gonna get to see a peel from the other side.

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You are the peel this time.

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Oh, here it comes.

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Whoa, it's so much sharper.

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I thought it was just a bad webcam.

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So yeah, I guess we are hearing presumably

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the speed of the microphone array

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that is built into this display.

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And wow, that actually, yeah, that looks really good.

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Let us play some games.

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Yeah, it's hovering around 60 FPS.

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I'm wondering if I have V-Sync on.

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It doesn't seem to be when I'm in the menu.

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V-Sync is off. Okay.

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So it only does about 60 FPS max at these settings,

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which is 1440p wide, ultra quality.

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This thing's got a really, really quiet little fan in it.

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This thing is clearly struggling right now

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because the CPU is gonna be hit pretty hard

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in a game like Doom.

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And the GPU is obviously struggling

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because it's got a whole bunch of stuff going on right now.

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But if I mute the audio while the game is running,

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I don't, I don't hear anything.

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Like.

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I think I hear our server even better.

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Ooh, oh, it is pumping out a lot of heat up here.

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I had to say, despite the fact that I went into this,

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like kind of crapping on the specs,

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it's really good overall.

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Like it's a good all-rounder.

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Long story short, it's got a good display.

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It's not the best display, but it's a good display.

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It's got a good webcam.

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It's not the best webcam, but it's actually pretty strong.

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It's got good speakers,

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if only because it has the good software.

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Okay, well, this is not so good, but it works sometimes.

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It's got pretty good IO.

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I don't have any major complaints, to be honest,

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aside from all the complaints that I've been doing.

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I've been complaining this whole time

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about like bloatware and stuff.

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Would you buy this?

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Oh, should you wait until this is the 12th?

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I would say, wait for the 12th gen model.

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That being said, if you get this on special in the meantime,

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because the 12th gen model is gonna come, then sure.

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Like this is the kind of computer

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that I would buy for my grandparents.

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For somebody who doesn't, you know,

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need to upgrade their computer super much,

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like maybe they just need to upgrade the RAM later on,

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or they need to add more storage, then yeah.

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This is actually super easy to get into.

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And so for somebody who's not technically minded,

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you could walk them through doing that very easily.

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I came into this kind of not being impressed with the specs

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and not being impressed with, you know,

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some other aspects of it,

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but it's actually really good overall.

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I like it.

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And I like you and the fact that you like ShortCircuit.

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So get subscribed and I don't know,

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maybe comment down below

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what other machines or otherwise

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that we should take a look at.
