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and we're live folks it is the revealing

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of the legendary slick himself and we've got a lot of cool topics you want to

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just kind of say hi to everyone hey everybody how's it

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going sorry I actually haven't had a chance to eat dinner yet tonight so I

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hope that's uh I hope it's okay with you guys if I just kind of ma on something

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half so what I'd like to do is kick

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things off with a little bit of Q&A with uh with slick himself if you guys aren't

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familiar with our Twitter handles we're actually only going to be monitoring my

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Twitter tonight so you're going to want to go

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ahead and ask any questions you have on

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Twitter and I am going to take a little break and eat and Slick is going to do

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some Q&A I have no way to cook it oh that's

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okay I don't worry I got this i got this talk at the camera don't talk to me all

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right we're a full minute late with the live stream how dare you you know what

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we have been guys we have gone through

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hell and back to bring you this live stream because we actually had to shoot

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another video tonight with um with with Slick's brother actually you want to

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talk a little bit about that uh my brother and my mom actually uh my mom is

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hosting a charity called uh caregivers night out it's for caregivers of family

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members what it's for caregivers of family members and whatnot that don't

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get paid for what they're doing so if they're if you're taking care of uh some

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sort of family member you don't get paid for it takes up all your time you don't really get any days to yourself this is

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for you um it's more just in our area so it's more of a local thing but my

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brother thought that he' help fund the event because uh there's dinner and

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everything included and it's all paid for by my family brother thought he'd

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help fund the event by holding an online Starcraft tournament so it's $5 Buy in

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$2.50 goes towards the pot and $2.50

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goes towards the charity and yeah it'll be just a fun event for everyone all

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right we have some questions for slick

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we love you slick that's not really a question here we go okay we're going to

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pretend that someone asked slick that there you

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go uh build a computer or look into

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building a computer there's tons of different places you can go ocn no he

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asked how you got started how did I get started uh I built a

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computer um when I got started ncx

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wasn't really around so I researched some parts online I went on to a couple

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forums I don't remember what they were at the time um but just a whole bunch of

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old school computer forums asked around for what parts people liked looked up

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reviews uh performance reviews whatnot why did you want a computer uh Diablo

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okay at the time I wanted to play Diablo yeah okay yeah Diablo is pretty cool is

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that Diablo 1 uh at the time that was Diablo I my dad had built a computer for

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Diablo 1 awesome okay what else we got here guys you're late which is getting

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out of control come on guys I was like two minutes late geez

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you guys are killing me here we're waiting very patiently for Hours come on

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guys it says okay here just to make this clear I'm going switch to full screen

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here okay if you go to Twitch I always

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say when we will be live again and wow

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that's oh that's going to get that's going to get real confusing real fast see we'll be live again at the time

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Pacific time and the date so if you're

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ever wondering at what point we are

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going to be live again on the twitch Channel you can just check at any time

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so so I don't want to hear that you guys waited for hours for the stream because

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I told you when it was going to be all right let's do some more Twitter here go

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ahead take it away

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slick shout out to your mom okay that's

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pretty cool um awesome what happened to

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your ARM okay I was biking to school came down a hill uh went around a corner

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and as I came around the corner a car came up right up beside me so we were

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both going around the corner together as we got around the corner and I was coming into school uh I got pushed into

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the gutter this was the first big day of fall so there's tons of wet leaves everywhere there's a ramp for people to

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walk up onto the sidewalk and I tried to turn up on there what I couldn't see

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because of all the leaves that were covering it was that the ramp actually still had a ledge about this much

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instead of the side box that was about that much so when I turned to try and go

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up on it um my wheel went completely sideways and I went Head Over Heels of

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my bike and landed on the big curb right on my shoulder and then screwed up my

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hand as well so that was on Monday so so

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they're probably going to want to know if your ARM's broken my ARM is not

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broken no bones are broken no fractures

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um the muscles in my shoulder are pretty messed up and there's a big cut and my

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fingers are quite cut up but I can still move them

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so cool story

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bro here we go guys we got another question for slick uh I've got one

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brother no other siblings he's quite interested in technology um he's got his

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own water cooled Cosmos 2 um I think you

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actually tweeted pictures of that right I have tweeted pictures of that those are pretty early on but if you go to my

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Twitter and check out the pictures they're some of the only pictures I have on there so should be able to find it

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it's pretty sick it's pry so remember guys you can follow slick on Twitter at

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slick PC see I made these cool little Twitter tags for this week which are

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very Hightech and I made them in um

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Photoshop paint whatever

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man all right so slick why did you decide to

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show up this time uh I

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didn't actually I don't really necessarily care

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about showing myself it's always been kind of a fun game for people to look

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for me in Reflections I remember one of my favorite things was uh closer to when

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I first started uh we had a video where in the background of the TV you could

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see me really well so I came with the idea of putting random stuff on my head

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we put a a shoe we put a shoe uh

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um CP water cooler yeah and something

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else was a Bo yeah it was a box or something and that was pretty fun cuz

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people got to guess what it was and I don't know some people you know it took

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a while but then people started actually noticing it so that was uh that was

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pretty awesome yeah okay

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um H I actually haven't heard of the 570

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LX but if it's basically similar to an h100 but with a thicker radiator then it

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should just be yeah yeah pretty much like here say we collectively three

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thumbs up because no no don't even don't even try it's there's no

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point okay we got more questions here's here's a good

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one no I don't

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know kind of simple but I didn't really think it was that big of a deal um it's

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it's Linus Tech tips so yeah here's

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something okay I've actually received

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you you guys would be surprised I've actually received a ton of messages over

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the year sort of condemning my uh my disrespectful treatment of slick uh

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cameraman all these various sorts of characters so slick can you set the

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record straight once and for all were your itty bitty feelings hurt by no uh

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banter usually goes back and forth off camera um there's there was a couple

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where people were like I'm unsubscribing blah blah blah uh the one I remember was

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an I don't remember exactly what what it was I think it was MSI z77 gd65 make

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sure you're projecting it in theer I think it was the MSI z77 g65a unboxing

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outside and I was trying to cover up the Sun so that there was a shadow on it so

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you could see it easier I don't remember what he said but people got pretty up

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about it no because it was kind of it was kind of homo because you were really

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close to me so I was like I well okay I

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was like this and I was unboxing something and then you were like you

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were like right the I was like whoa you're you're a little close it was just

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it was one of those things it was like I thought you were going to give me a man

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hug um no no no off camera banter goes back and forth so I can totally

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understand how that might have looked on camera but it's actually fine once it's

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off camera I give him back it's all and just so you guys know like attached to

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my left foot I have like a blade that I've been sticking into his calf and if

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he doesn't say that it's okay then I was going to like stab him so

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yeah all right what else we got um should be fine here hold on sorry

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should be fine try the Windows 7 drivers they should work um my ARM is more

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questions about the ARM I mean okay geek tweets

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BL oh flip as has a good question so for

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the h100i we actually we actually shot an unboxing tonight I'm going to go find

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it but slick can probably explain what the difference is um new magnetic

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mounting hardware is pretty awesome so that you can easily switch out the

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hardware for if you want AMD or Intel the new tubing's great it's really cool

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um make sure you're projecting at the camera the radiator seems exactly the

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same the new fans are awesome a lot better than what they were before

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they're basically uh of course they're SP fans but they're simplified a bit no

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more rubber mounting system no more tube through there uh no more ring yeah no

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color color customization yeah you can pop on and off show the magnetic M yeah

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so see so this is really cool guys so it has 38 in tubing now which is kind of

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awesome uh so you can see super thick tubing compar okay you can't see it at

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all but super thick tubing compared to what we have had before and instead of

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those screws that you use to put the mounting hardware on it you just got a

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little clip that goes over top and uh is held in place by a magnet

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so you can swap between the Intel and the AMD mounting hardware very very

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easily which is really cool so I mean that's well of course they link yeah and

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of course they link and the the actual water block is very glossy now and looks

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pretty cool yeah looks sweet I mean

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glossy bothers me when it's a monitor bezel yeah but when you're not really

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touching it all the time or it's not really in like direct dust you know yeah

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I mean it's sideways so it should have a hard time settling on there should be

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okay I think and positive air flow but

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yeah guys we'll have an unboxing coming of the h100 very soon I'm going to

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upload it sometime tonight after I upload the live stream video so good

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question very good question all right

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okay Jared what would you recommend for an nmo gaming mouse and an MMO gaming

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blue backlit keyboard well for one thing you're not giving us a lot of options

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with the MMO gaming blue backlit keyboard because you can either try to

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dig up one of the legendary Logitech g15

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gen ones good luck with that cuz the people who have them are you know yeah

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yeah not not giving them up um or you could go with something like a COR k90

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but the k90 has some compatibility issues with some motherboards unless

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they've received BIOS updates um for a

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mouse my personal pick is still the Naga

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I've used the g600 I've used the M90 M90

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is not bad but I would still I would pick the Naga what would you go um I'm

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not actually a huge fan of the more MMO branded mice and keyboards um okay but I

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think we can all agree k90 is better than k60 yes I'll actually agree with

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that um if you if you don't actually use

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the macro keys on the side of your keyboard because most people I know that have them don't actually use them um I

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know more a lot of people that I know that have MMO like they play a lot of

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MMOs and they like their MMO ke use the ones on the mouse but not the keyboard

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so if you use the ones on the Mouse um I know rat or mad cats is coming out with

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a new MMO Mouse pretty soon um there's k90 there's uh there's quite a few M90

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yeah my bad M90 um did you try the g600

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yet no oh just feels a little bit laggy to me like it's not oh the Logitech one

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yeah yeah I haven't tried it but I've heard a lot of reviews about it being lagy tons of them it just it just

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doesn't feel quite right like even something like uh like M60 or M90 or G9

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g9x those nice yeah g9x is awesome it's

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like twitch responsive but then I noticed um I love Logitech

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peripherals but other than their g710

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plus which recently came out they're more recent stuff I'm not a huge fan of

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g710 plus is kind of outstanding it's pretty great actually and for keyboards

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in general if you're looking for a blue backlit keyboard if you want it to be mechanical check out ducky or deck I

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know they both do blue backlits all right we have 123 new

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interactions oh boy

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um ay2 LS to a claro Halo do people

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still buy claro cards claro Halo is an

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HT Omega card right I believe so I think so yeah claro Halo is a little bit on

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the outdated side I mean it's still a very good quality card I'd probably go

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with something like uh Zone rst at this point though for a more modern modern

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solution that you know is going to keep getting drivers support because with

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sound cards there's that super build quality which really doesn't change

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because analog and even Dax to a certain point are not advancing nearly as fast

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as a lot of stuff but when it comes to driver support that's where you can run

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into issues with an obscure sound card and if you get the right sound card you

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can get swapable all amps and other things so you can actually change it a bit down the line oh yeah that's true

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too um personally I'm not a big fan of

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the sort of dedicated physx card modern card are so fast it's kind of

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unnecessary um Ryan good question if

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you're upgrading to Windows 8 here I'm going to oh I'm going to put our oh it's

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not working okay two seconds guys okay slick answer that question and then I

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will fix this thing um I personally install Windows 8 on my laptop just to

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more try it out because it's a develop my laptop is a permanent development

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suite for me um I don't see a huge difference I don't

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actually use Optical drives that often anymore uh I'm thinking about swapping

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out the optical drive on my laptop actually for an additional uh hard

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driver SSD Bay so yeah um I would probably just download it and load it

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onto a USB okay yeah I think that pretty

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much covers it okay what are you eating lonus oh I'm having a honey garlic honey

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garlic pork and uh and rice and broccoli

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and okay I thought the cat was uh trying to attack the oh here we already covered

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this one awesome uh minet N600 oh okay

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here's a good question so um what's his name genp m mignon asks

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minet N900 or linkis new AC router so uh

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I'm GNA let I'm going to let slick talk in a minute here but first I want to

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jump to our uh youtube.com/ ncom so this is the

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channel That I maintain for NC sorry I'm going to fix that there we go so this is

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the channel I maintained for NC this oh

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shoot sorry guys okay sorry the audio should be fixed now now this is the see

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you guys are probably freaking out about it now uh this is the channel I maintained for NC and we actually just

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did a video on Western digitals myet

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family of routers and what we did is we actually went to Slick's house see here

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we are in Slick's house and here I'm going to go full screen so I'm going to

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let you guys watch this segment because it's kind of interesting on the Western

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Digital myet N900 Central router to see

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if it can handle anything we can throw out it pretty much his internet

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connection is 25 megabit Down 2 megabit

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up and we are absolutely hammering it we

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have Diablo I as well as another game updating right now we have an FTP

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download going on this notebook over a I'm going to skip a bit here

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guys so basically here's uh here's me

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and slick with Netflix running and a Skype call going at the same time while

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we've got the network super loaded up which we of course have permission for

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We Are are streaming ah yes we have one of his other roommates you can actually

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see diesel here check this out you can see diesel right here filming behind the

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camera because that's my end of the Skype call two utorent clients running

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on separate PCS all running off

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the all right so let's get back to uh

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let's get back to business so slick what was your take because we

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actually tested the ea4500 that's the cloud cloud router and the minet 900 so

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we did that we showed the test with the 900 but take it away the 4500 was kind of

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insane uh to put it lightly I we we

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brought down the firmware right yeah we we're not using the cloud firmware on it

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we brought it off Cloud firmware because neither of us are neither of us are a fan of cloud firmware um we were running

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two or three utorent connections that were all downloading and uploading we

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were downloading and uploading to an FTP we had a roommate of mine streaming on

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Twitch we had just everything we could

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possibly a Skype call we had everything we could really think of to hammer the

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network and then 4500 just didn't care uh it ran everything perfectly pings

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were kind of insane but everything that we were actually doing actively was

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running seamlessly now the original

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intention of the episode was to show like a head-to-head um because it was WD

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who asked us to do the episode about their FastTrack feature which is qos

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that is maintenance free you just it's automatic automatic qos um so we were

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like okay let's test it against something that doesn't have automatic qos and we were expecting to be able to

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demonstrate like a huge difference in the prioritization now the minet did

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prioritize the traffic the Netflix stream didn't degrade in quality and the

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Skype call was maintained but what happened was when we started to throw

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more stuff at it um the like the game

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pings when we tried it at the end was about a second on the myet minet router

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playing League of Legends around a th MS

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so so what that meant was that it was

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the the prioritization was working but when we actually put it head-to-head

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against the linkis router it wasn't

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necessarily a good demonstration let's just put it that way so so pretty much

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the answer to that question I think is pretty straightforward I would probably

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go with i i okay I don't think I would

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actually buy the AC router though because there's nothing AC unless un you

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really want it um but the ea4500 is really great and I'm expecting that the

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6500 would be pretty much more of the same yeah

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okay um yeah see this this pretty much that

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pretty much summarizes the sentiments of anyone with uh with g15 Gen one G g15

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the best gen two yeah you can have it I had an N g15 for a really really

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long time and it took me like it took me like sorry I was looking down cuz I

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depressed it took me like 3 months to pick a keyboard when it died cuz I was

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just so unhappy when it died and I love mechanical keyboards but there's just

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something about g15 like the original g15s that was just absolutely amazing um

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I still have it upstairs even though it's completely dead I just kind of

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refused to get rid of it I don't know Sim asks what's a good FPS gaming

00:19:20.080 --> 00:19:25.880
mouse um I like my g9x I also like g500s

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uh like I've already said earlier I'm a pretty big fan of Logitech peripherals

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mainly their mice uh actually for keyboards I usually go for more mechanical ones but I guess they have

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710 plus now yeah but not in Blue switches so i' probably I I'll wait for

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that I'll wait for that um but yeah g9x I really like G500 I really like the

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meic one is also really good yeah zal 60 is what I'm using these days well that's

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their keyboard yeah it's like their did he ask mice mouse oh the naos uh naos

00:19:49.679 --> 00:19:58.840
5,000 or 500 naos 500 yeah my wife uses a naos 3200 she really likes the uh the

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ergonomics yeah it's good most okay

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here we go so two two quick questions here um won't the h100 I magnet

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interfere with the motherboard or any hardware no Universal scripts asked what

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is your opinion on sh sorry that's the

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baby what is your opinion on Windows 8 strictly as a non-touchscreen OS and

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actually slick spent more time with Windows 8 than I have so far so take it

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away uh I really like the feel of it

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like when you search for programs and stuff it flows really well it it seems

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to it feels very natural everything flows as you I miss men I miss Arrow

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glass I actually don't um for a little while I did but I don't actually think

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it's that big of a deal because I I think the reason they took it out and

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this is just purely speculation I think the reason they took it out probably has nothing to do with it not being better

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like I think it's way better no it's cuz it's all generalized so the tablets and

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phones would have a problem with it um and you can feel that when you use it

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though that's that's the pet peeve I have about it you can tell when you do

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certain things that this was designed for a tablet this was designed for a

00:21:01.520 --> 00:21:07.400
phone this was designed for a touchcreen so there's usually at least one more

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step to everything and it doesn't sound like a lot but when you go to shut your

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computer down and like I'm moving from class to class I want to shut down

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really quickly um when there's one extra step it's just tedious and annoying and

00:21:17.600 --> 00:21:25.440
like as you riddle me this why do you need to shut down because it wakes and

00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:29.840
sleeps so fast but if you ever do need to shut down like for whatever reason if

00:21:28.080 --> 00:21:34.520
if you wake and sleep it's the same thing I've had some problems closing my

00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:38.480
tablet uh my laptop and moving from class to class but that's more to do

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with the fact that I had a pre-release version of Windows 8 that I don't think

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had full functionality yet so that's probably it but back then I was constantly shutting down and going from

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classic class but no matter what you do there's usually one more step or say if

00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:53.440
you want to open another notepad so if you already have a notepad open uh Press

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Start type notepad press enter it will just bring the notepad that you already

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have open forward on the screen instead of actually opening a new notepad like

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it did in all previous versions of Windows so instead you have to either go

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down and middle click on it with your mouse wheel or right click and create a

00:22:07.159 --> 00:22:12.679
new instance which is just I liked the

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old way I don't know I'm not a huge fan of it as a non-touchscreen desktop OS

00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:21.880
but yeah but you'll stubbornly use it I will stubbornly use it I will give it

00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:25.080
time I'm excited for service pack one right I mean there's a couple little

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things that I'm kind of looking at going well if they just fix this then it would

00:22:26.919 --> 00:22:32.720
be a billion times better like the search uh search right now you click

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search and then or you you click the start menu and then you type in something and if you don't have the

00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:42.520
right type of thing that you're searching for selected it won't find anything so if you're looking for a

00:22:39.600 --> 00:22:47.080
setting like device manager um or whatever you have to go under settings

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and it's default is apps so it it's just annoying you should just be able to type

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it and press enter but you have to type it and click on the thing and then yeah

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yeah so on the other hand surface r is

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amazing Surface RT is amazing there is other really cool things about Windows 8 too um file transfers are awesome I know

00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:10.640
they're amazingly awesome remember when we were trying to do those benchmarks

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with the ad Data Drive on the Windows 7 machine and it was like just completely

00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:19.240
derping out I tried it on Windows 8 machine it's like so easy I get a useful

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readable Benchmark I mean I'm using I'm using Windows 8 for any kind of file

00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:25.880
transfer any kind of like storage benchmarks from now on that's that's

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just it yeah I know absolutely great shows you a perfect graphical map of How

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It's transferring they're pausable which is amazing I absolutely love that I use

00:23:32.520 --> 00:23:39.039
that constantly yeah um all of that is just great the new task manager is

00:23:36.919 --> 00:23:42.720
awesome I love task manager and it even works on like the RT tablets and stuff

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which is kind of cool it's great like there is really really good things about

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it but there's also things that I'm not a huge fan of and they could fix that in

00:23:48.679 --> 00:23:54.360
F their service packs or whatever so we'll see how it goes okay so let's move

00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:57.480
into one of our discussion topics um I don't know if you guys have heard about

00:23:55.720 --> 00:24:03.679
this already or if you haven't heard about this already but if you haven't

00:24:00.520 --> 00:24:06.240
then motherboards.org the channel just

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go motherboards org you know the one with uh with

00:24:08.120 --> 00:24:15.960
El is no longer the motherboards.org Channel with elri so if you guys haven't

00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:20.279
seen this already check this out in the last couple days here we'll go on uh

00:24:18.080 --> 00:24:23.120
social blade yeah this will probably be

00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:27.200
interesting yeah this will this will probably be interesting so El left

00:24:25.120 --> 00:24:31.120
motherboards.org published a video on his other Channel Tech tomorrow or

00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:35.240
tomorrow Tech I think it's Tech tomorrow I think it might be tomorrow Tech okay

00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:40.720
it's one of the two um telling his subscribers to unsubscribe because his

00:24:37.679 --> 00:24:42.360
channel had been taken from him so in

00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:47.399
the last couple days uh yeah helps if I type the thing

00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:53.360
right in the last couple days he has shed thousands of

00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:57.919
subscribers so my hard there we go okay I got this i got

00:24:56.039 --> 00:25:03.200
this so check that out guys in the the past couple days he has lost about

00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:09.279
13,000 subscribers from the motherboards org Channel which basically is um I mean

00:25:08.120 --> 00:25:19.679
what are what are they even what are they even going to do with it like realistically think about this guys what

00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:22.919
if I was like fired from NC then I don't

00:25:19.679 --> 00:25:25.840
know slick would you do lus Tech tips uh

00:25:22.919 --> 00:25:29.039
probably not okay so there hold on okay couple things guys so there's a lot of

00:25:27.760 --> 00:25:32.120
there's a lot of people in the twitch chat and I'm here I'm going to let you

00:25:30.840 --> 00:25:39.039
guys I'm going to let you twitch chat guys talk for a little bit here there's a lot of people in the twitch chat that

00:25:36.520 --> 00:25:41.919
are um that are saying you know oh well you know blah blah blah he wasn't he

00:25:40.399 --> 00:25:45.640
wasn't that great anyway blah blah blah it's not the it's not really the point

00:25:43.760 --> 00:25:50.240
the point is it's very difficult to recast someone who is sort of the the

00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:55.559
face and I'm not saying who was right and who was wrong because I have no idea

00:25:53.120 --> 00:26:00.320
but I mean would you watch uh for example actually okay what what other

00:25:58.360 --> 00:26:05.440
channels do you even follow okay time to live Customs yeah would you watch it

00:26:01.840 --> 00:26:07.520
without tiny Tom Logan no um the only

00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:11.399
other guy I really watch is Tiny Tom Logan and the only reason why I watch

00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:16.720
him is if he goes so into depth with things so that I can't actually just get

00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:21.760
this from reading a little blurb um and without him that Channel's dead if he

00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:26.000
lost if he left for some reason it's his thing so he can't really be fired but if

00:26:23.080 --> 00:26:32.039
he left for some reason I would see no reason to watch any more videos uh the

00:26:27.840 --> 00:26:34.320
whole thing is branded on a person like

00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:39.399
uh what was that TV show where the guy got fired because he smoked too much cck

00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:42.320
what oh uh Charlie Sheen yeah when he left like does anyone actually watch

00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:46.279
that show anymore I know right ashon cutcher yeah as far as I've heard it

00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:50.520
just no one cares and like ashon cooker Kutcher is apparently a good actor but

00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:54.640
like no one cares the whole idea of the show is gone right I don't know okay so

00:26:53.679 --> 00:27:01.399
that was something that we said we were going to talk about I want to talk about another thing so

00:26:59.120 --> 00:27:05.559
everyone knows what this is and this of course looks like the same thing which

00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:12.080
is of course a reason that uh Apple should get a lot of money

00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:14.360
um so it's official the Galaxy S3 is the

00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:19.600
top selling smartphone ever or something like that right yeah

00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:24.840
okay what's that mean I don't know here's my okay here's

00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:32.600
my here's my problem and I'm not I'm not an apple Fanboy at all but here here's

00:27:29.399 --> 00:27:35.200
here's the thing S3 they spend on the

00:27:32.600 --> 00:27:38.679
hardware that much is that much is clear so they design this phone maybe they

00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:42.159
take a lower margin on it at the beginning and they go okay we're going

00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:47.159
to put like a huge screen in it and we're going to like um put like a super

00:27:45.120 --> 00:27:51.360
fast processor in it or whatever else but

00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:54.600
I would you would you argue that the build quality is better than an iPhone 4

00:27:53.159 --> 00:28:00.080
or an iPhone 5 uh not necessarily they're both really

00:27:57.320 --> 00:28:04.399
high build quality phones it's made of plastic so what do you mean so what

00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:09.679
what's your favorite what's your favorite backing on Samsung monitors brush aluminum or fake fake brush

00:28:08.159 --> 00:28:13.919
aluminum okay but we're not talking about that we're talking we're talking

00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:17.279
about a phone it's really durable I've dropped it a couple times already can

00:28:15.159 --> 00:28:23.039
you tell probably if I look closely enough I

00:28:20.399 --> 00:28:26.320
don't think so wow actually okay okay okay fine it's actually really like

00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:29.559
there's differences between plastic you know that it's good plastic forget phone

00:28:28.120 --> 00:28:33.039
then let's let's move let's let's look at like notebooks then okay notebooks

00:28:31.679 --> 00:28:37.000
Apple spends on the build quality of their notebooks this is true un

00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:40.720
questionable I mean I had an HP Elite Book for a while there that I was just

00:28:39.679 --> 00:28:44.679
kind of tinkering around with I was going wow this is built really well for

00:28:43.080 --> 00:28:49.360
a PC and then I kind of looked at it I went yeah but it's priced like a Mac so

00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:53.600
I would make I guess I would make the argument that even if you're not getting

00:28:51.840 --> 00:29:00.320
sort of the the hardware spe or even if you're not getting whatever else I think there's an inherent value to build

00:28:56.399 --> 00:29:02.960
quality yes but this has build

00:29:00.320 --> 00:29:07.360
quality I I this is a I've dropped it quite few times cement a couple times

00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:11.880
not proud of that but it has what about the fact that Apple's phone is so much faster

00:29:09.760 --> 00:29:16.640
now uh I have never had a single problem

00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:20.960
with speed with this phone I know but I've never had a single problem with

00:29:17.840 --> 00:29:23.279
speed for my iPhone 4 so does it

00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:26.720
matter I can play a game and watch a video at the same time and neither of

00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:29.799
them lag I think that's good enough that's good enough for so basically

00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:33.960
phones are as fast okay there you go slick Tech tip of the day no I disagree

00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:37.480
SLI phones are as fast as they ever need to be I'm saying it's not slow I'm not

00:29:35.840 --> 00:29:40.919
saying it's as fast as it needs to be no one will ever need more than 512 kiloby

00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:46.679
this phone has LTE okay are you running LTE

00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:54.880
no okay okay fine let me put it this way okay let's

00:29:52.200 --> 00:30:01.640
move on to tablets then okay okay tablets I would argue that I iPad

00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:05.159
absolutely smokes everything else yeah

00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:06.399
um I do like the okay surface I like

00:30:05.159 --> 00:30:12.279
yeah I was just going to say I do really like the service although let's go back to Android then okay I I'm not I'm not

00:30:10.840 --> 00:30:16.159
willing to fight for Android in the tablet tablet Market they just don't

00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:19.159
have it right now in I I will I will stand behind them with phones I like

00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:24.679
their phones I don't like the usability experience of an iPhone okay um I would

00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:28.399
argue that it's excellent but but not for me have you ever used one yes I have

00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:34.720
did you ever actually use one day to day I have iPhone 3G my mom has it right now

00:30:32.080 --> 00:30:39.519
she uses it as an iPod I don't like it there's it's it's

00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:45.039
you have to sign into the App Store every single freaking time I'm signing into my phone I just want to use my

00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:49.320
phone the only argument I've heard that that is actually viable is so that your

00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:52.440
kid can't go on their phone and buy a million different things there's

00:30:50.760 --> 00:30:57.320
parental controls in here you can turn on printer controls and make it so you

00:30:53.840 --> 00:30:58.720
just can't buy things okay I it's EXC

00:30:57.320 --> 00:31:03.880
let's go back to the battle I can win then let's go back to tablet so I iPad 4

00:31:02.159 --> 00:31:09.200
there's a lot of sort of there's a lot of there's people are talking a lot of

00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:13.000
smack about how iPad 4 is just an iPad 3

00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:15.440
with a faster processor yeah

00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:18.399
um but it doesn't cost more yeah and and it's not like that's any different from

00:31:16.760 --> 00:31:21.760
what they've usually done they does it ever cost more I thought they always releas in at the same price no it always

00:31:20.679 --> 00:31:29.039
comes in at the same price point the one thing we saw last time though was they kept the iPad 2 around but at a lower

00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.799
price point as of like a so so with iPad

00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:36.720
Mini there's like a good better best kind of placement strategy here so with

00:31:34.320 --> 00:31:42.679
a6x which I think is the chip in the iPad 4 which they're not calling iPad 4

00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:45.320
it's the new iPad again like six or

00:31:42.679 --> 00:31:49.480
seven months after the last new iPad there's B they're basically two

00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:55.639
generations ahead of anything else in terms of performance why uh they're they're ARM

00:31:53.960 --> 00:32:00.039
processors uh I was talking to a friend at school Theo if you're out there hello

00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:04.880
um I don't know if this is true this is something I heard from a friend at school so don't quote me but he's pretty

00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:07.760
credible so I think so and he was saying that apple is they haven't made an

00:32:06.840 --> 00:32:12.600
official statement or anything but they're seriously considering going with ARM processors for everything really

00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:17.279
ditching Intel and I think that might give Intel

00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:22.679
a little bit of a wakeup call for the tablet Market I certainly hope so yeah

00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:24.120
because surface is amazing and I can't

00:32:22.679 --> 00:32:27.600
really fight for any Android tablets although I'd like to but I just can't

00:32:25.760 --> 00:32:33.320
but again the same thing holding back surface is holding back Android tablets

00:32:30.159 --> 00:32:35.279
in a big way and it's Tegra 3 I Tegra 3

00:32:33.320 --> 00:32:42.039
was good when it came out it was good but even then it wasn't as fast as iPad

00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:44.240
2 y iPad 3 was faster iPad 4 is faster

00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:50.799
again it's a two generational Gap and it already wasn't that competitive

00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:52.720
so why is it that NVIDIA can't afford to

00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:58.039
make a faster chip or Samsung can't afford to I mean even Galaxy Note 10.1

00:32:55.399 --> 00:33:03.480
has a faster chip in it than a or three but using it did not feel like anything

00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:09.639
like using an iPad um I think NVIDIA is more going for

00:33:06.639 --> 00:33:10.840
the value market right now um I know

00:33:09.639 --> 00:33:15.320
it's kind of weird because NVIDIA usually goes big or goes home but um but

00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:19.440
they Trump at the performance of tiger from the rooftops yeah I know um and

00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:24.679
they really need to get their game up because they are getting destroyed by ARM and so does Intel Intel needs to

00:33:22.600 --> 00:33:29.279
wake up and actually care about tablets and start destroying ARM because Intel

00:33:26.399 --> 00:33:32.000
has the power to do it NVIDIA is awesome but I think they're still even though

00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:37.320
they say they're kind of focusing on tablets I think they're still focusing on the desktop realm um trying to make

00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:39.880
things cheaper that an Enterprise an Enterprise and all that kind of stuff

00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:44.639
and I think that's what Intel is doing too they care more about desktops they care more about servers um here's the

00:33:43.360 --> 00:33:51.880
thing that kills me about what Intel's been doing lately and it comes down to die

00:33:48.360 --> 00:33:53.360
size Intel chips now that okay okay you

00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:59.679
look at sort of think about this so the pricing of AMD CPUs versus Intel CPUs

00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:03.240
AMD has a four module pile driver chip

00:33:59.679 --> 00:34:06.559
the 8350 that has an enormous die like

00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:07.960
we're talking a die that is at least I I

00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:12.839
can't remember the exact measurements but it's more than double the size of an

00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:17.800
Intel 3770k huge die size compared to that so when it comes to how much a CPU

00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:21.879
costs or how much any chip costs like this chip you know this chip doesn't

00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:26.119
matter what chip it comes down to the manufacturing process so the R&D that

00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:32.280
went into it and then it comes down to the die size because the die size is the

00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:36.119
odds that a defect will appear on that part of the wafer so the wafer is about

00:34:33.919 --> 00:34:39.760
this big and then you can put as many chips as you can and the bigger the die

00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:42.720
size any wafer is going to have defects especially around the outsides the

00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:46.919
bigger the die size the bigger the chance there's a significant defect on

00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:52.839
it it can't be used so Intel if you watch they've been

00:34:50.040 --> 00:34:57.160
shrinking their manufacturing process they haven't been giving

00:34:54.399 --> 00:35:00.520
us any kind of uh they they've been shrinking the die size that's dedicated

00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:04.320
to the actual CPU for the last few Generations so what could they do if

00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:09.240
they were actually paying attention if AMD was actually giving them a run for their money and this ties back into my

00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:13.240
point about Apple as well uh they could use their real estate more and just blow

00:35:10.839 --> 00:35:17.560
them out of the water isn't it um 2011 didn't they like burn off to the cores

00:35:15.520 --> 00:35:21.599
uh yeah yeah 2011 well the the server chips are up to eight cores yeah yeah

00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:26.160
and then the extreme Edition which is supposed to be the even the new extreme

00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:31.480
Edition 3970x which is supposed to be like 50 watt TDP So in theory they

00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:36.240
didn't even care about TDP but all we got out of it was a couple hundred more

00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:42.839
mehz and they did not leave in the other two cores and I'm I mean Ivy Sandy

00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:47.880
Bridge e Ivy Bridge e Ivy Bridge e which is coming I think it's supposed to be up

00:35:44.240 --> 00:35:50.480
to 12 course but whenever it comes it'll

00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:55.480
come and that'll be that I think um I used to be a pretty big fan of AMD back

00:35:53.040 --> 00:35:58.079
with their Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 X2 yeah you're a fair weather friend as B

00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:04.839
basically what you're trying to say but go ahead yeah um but AMD just hasn't been

00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:09.040
competing properly lately Intel's just been absolutely destroying and because

00:36:06.520 --> 00:36:13.920
AMD isn't actually giving Intel a run for their money um Intel doesn't have to

00:36:12.319 --> 00:36:18.880
care I they can just keep on making things cheaper and cheaper so that their

00:36:16.520 --> 00:36:22.240
profit margins are higher and just they just don't have to Care on the other

00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:26.040
hand what do they have to do because they're a publicly traded company

00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:29.319
publicly traded companies are always evaluated bed Bas on growth they have to

00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:33.079
make money yeah yeah so they have to make money they have to show growth if

00:36:31.520 --> 00:36:38.680
they're not increasing profit margins or increasing revenues or doing both then

00:36:35.200 --> 00:36:40.520
they're going to get destroyed so the PC

00:36:38.680 --> 00:36:43.280
desktop PC market is pretty saturated and I've got my own opinions about why

00:36:42.040 --> 00:36:48.079
that is I don't think it has anything to do with the desktop being dead as a platform I think it's just I mean how

00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:52.359
old is your parents okay you're probably a bad example but your friends how old

00:36:50.200 --> 00:36:56.400
are their parents computers oh really old my parents computer my my friend's

00:36:54.560 --> 00:37:00.680
parents computers are really old five years probably around there XP machines

00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:05.839
they're just they're all XP machines all my friends parents computers are XP machines or they're my friend's old

00:37:04.319 --> 00:37:10.000
computers which are now running Windows 7 so it's hard to sell CPUs if you're

00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:15.240
not buying people aren't buying computers but that doesn't mean they're not still using desktops so we can put

00:37:13.359 --> 00:37:19.720
that aside forever the desktop is not dead but if you're Intel what choice do

00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:23.440
you have now you have to increase your margins um or you have to try and find a

00:37:21.839 --> 00:37:26.920
way to sell more stuff or you have to expand into new markets I mean I think

00:37:24.839 --> 00:37:29.880
SSD is going to be a big deal yeah um you look at what's going on with ocz

00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:37.160
right now you look at what's going on with anyone who's not a manufacturer

00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:41.640
yeah and uh guys like Samsung guys like

00:37:37.160 --> 00:37:43.880
Intel where they have Fabs they have the

00:37:41.640 --> 00:37:48.359
technology the vertical guys those those are going to be the guys who win yeah um

00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:54.880
where are we going with this they well I'm not actually entirely sure but like

00:37:50.200 --> 00:37:56.680
Intel can make their own uh modules and

00:37:54.880 --> 00:38:01.079
cherry pick them too so it's not really fair for all the guys that aren't manufacturing their own yeah that's true

00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:06.880
until Samsung just trade pick their own stuff right okay so back to my back to

00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:12.319
my Apple thing so here's my theory as to why Apple can

00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:19.280
be two generations ahead of everyone else in terms of performance they spend on die size you look at the size of

00:38:16.359 --> 00:38:25.520
something like an a6x compared to a Egra 3 it is huge it absolutely dwarfs tiger

00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:31.680
3 it's not rocket science I mean a processor is how many transistors are in

00:38:28.640 --> 00:38:33.599
it basically and then the advantage of a

00:38:31.680 --> 00:38:37.960
smaller manufacturing process is basically the the whole point is being

00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:41.079
able to stuff more transistors into that space because you reach a point of

00:38:39.560 --> 00:38:45.520
diminishing returns when it gets this big the delay to get a signal from here

00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:49.240
to here across the Chip And sort of all the traces in between becomes too much

00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:54.640
so as long as you stay within a certain size and it's all good but if you look back at like older remember when CPUs

00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:59.800
didn't have a heat spreader on them how big the cores were how big there so much

00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:03.800
smaller now whereas apple is interesting because NVIDIA doesn't get to take money

00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:07.720
from the manufacturing but neither does Apple they don't get to take money from

00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:10.720
the screen they don't get to take money from the app store they don't get to

00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:16.520
take money from the the button anything else Apple

00:39:14.040 --> 00:39:20.280
gets to take margin on almost every aspect of this device and and apple can

00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:25.599
make money on other things too like cables and cases and whatnot yes

00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:27.560
accessories so what happens I I believe

00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:32.440
the reason that they can be so far ahead is they can just spend on die size they

00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:36.520
can go okay we don't care make the chip as big as you want whereas NVIDIA only

00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:40.599
gets to sell a chip so they have to optimize you know like think about the

00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:44.640
margins you need if you're a chip maker so that that tagra device that you have

00:39:43.319 --> 00:39:49.319
um I don't have any handy right now but that Tegra device you have NVIDIA only

00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:53.640
got to take a profit on that one little thing so if they were to take like

00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:59.520
what's Apple's gross margins 40 45% or something like that it's around that so

00:39:55.079 --> 00:40:02.079
if Apple gets to take 45 % on a phone

00:39:59.520 --> 00:40:07.440
then NVIDIA if NVIDIA only gets to take 45% on a phone that means Apple's taking

00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:11.560
a couple hundred dollars or on a chip rather for NVIDIA and NVIDIA if that

00:40:09.720 --> 00:40:16.440
chip has to be part of a phone that costs $500 and they're getting 45% of

00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:21.200
whatever that is they're only getting to take a few bucks so they have to have much higher profit margins

00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:27.920
so that's my theory I don't think anyone can catch up unless it's maybe Samsung I

00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:33.480
think am could catch up Intel could catch up full solution providers yeah I

00:40:30.359 --> 00:40:35.560
I wish I don't know I hope I hope Tegra

00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:37.920
doesn't die I like kind of like NVIDIA and I like where they're going with it

00:40:36.839 --> 00:40:43.680
they're trying really hard they're pushing for the gaming side of it and stuff but it's just not there well

00:40:41.040 --> 00:40:48.720
Wayne's going to be significantly faster than the current generation product I

00:40:45.240 --> 00:40:51.319
mean the uh the road map that I saw at

00:40:48.720 --> 00:40:54.680
the last uh NVIDIA partner conference basically had performance going like

00:40:52.560 --> 00:41:00.560
this I think they were saying by 2014 or 2015 we were going to have Core i5 level

00:40:58.720 --> 00:41:05.760
performance in a tgra product um I mean they're very much in

00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:09.560
the game and as a Solutions provider I think they'll they'll always be a big

00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:14.160
winner yeah I mean AMD is finally turning things on with uh hey have you

00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:19.520
seen the new AMD drivers I actually have not never settled drivers are adding 10

00:41:16.839 --> 00:41:25.040
to 15% across the board on 7,000 series cards in AAA titles their their cards

00:41:22.160 --> 00:41:28.200
haven't really been a problem though no their graphics cards have been really

00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:32.520
good it's other areas that they've been failing in lately right okay let's do

00:41:30.560 --> 00:41:36.440
some Twitter Q&A for a while guys let's see if we got some good questions on the

00:41:34.520 --> 00:41:41.359
twitters I'm going to go ahead and switch to

00:41:38.839 --> 00:41:45.359
my Twitter window here so you guys can actually see what's going

00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:52.560
on all right back up to the top and we have 321 new interactions

00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:54.359
yay lus and Slick 7950 versus 660 Ti and

00:41:52.560 --> 00:41:58.960
Slick before you answer that question I would like you to remember that 7950 now

00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:02.800
has 10 to 15 better 10 to 15% better performance across the board compared to

00:42:00.520 --> 00:42:08.760
when you last benchmarked them right that probably means that in raw

00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:11.480
performance the 7950 will win um okay I

00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:17.640
like over if you get a 660 Ti power Edition no not anymore they revised it

00:42:15.319 --> 00:42:24.640
Andia had them pull it back seriously yeah that's pretty so now 7950 smoke 660

00:42:22.720 --> 00:42:28.480
Ti and overclocking yeah that's that's lame I I've really really really I

00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:31.640
called them out at packs I really really really don't like what NVIDIA is doing

00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:35.119
with their overvolting stuff and when I asked them um I actually got one of my

00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:40.040
buddies to ask him he was on here actually Harrison I got him to ask him

00:42:37.359 --> 00:42:42.880
um when he when Harrison asked them they said specifically oh we're not doing

00:42:41.720 --> 00:42:47.680
anything we're not do anything that's up to the board Partners but if the board

00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:52.520
Partners do anything about it like what MSI did I'm guessing like NVIDIA pulls

00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:55.640
all warranty yep so they can't afford that that's where NVIDIA used to stand

00:42:54.440 --> 00:43:02.319
behind them but now they don't stand behind them so they are doing something about okay the flip side of that is if I

00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:05.079
manufacture this CPU Cooler and I say

00:43:02.319 --> 00:43:11.240
you're not allowed to run the pump at 14 volts or 15 volts or 20 volts or

00:43:08.839 --> 00:43:15.640
wherever the limit is but don't I have the right to say no warranty yes and

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:19.800
that's true but NVIDIA has always covered this and now they have pulled it

00:43:17.319 --> 00:43:25.440
back that's to taking away an advantage of your product um if you if you run a

00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:29.680
company for 20 years I'm just pulling random numbers um 20 years and you've

00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:33.480
always had one big strong thing that everyone really likes you for and then

00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:36.400
you take it away you can't expect people to just be like oh yeah that totally

00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:41.839
makes sense people are going to be upset it's annoying um and like putting people

00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:45.880
in weird situations like MSI where they have to backpedal from their overvolting

00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:49.839
where that was so cool the 660 Ti power Edition was epic I love that card and

00:43:47.839 --> 00:43:52.760
now so basically it's a business decision at the end of the day it comes

00:43:51.359 --> 00:43:58.839
back to that you know what it comes back to that whole like die size and margins

00:43:56.559 --> 00:44:03.040
and shrinking business because Graphics as as I mean everyone wants to talk

00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:07.680
about PC gaming isn't dying PC gaming is not dying League of Legends most played

00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:11.680
game in history right here's the problem though is that League of Legends does

00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:17.440
not help sell graphics cards that's true that is true high-end PC gaming has been

00:44:14.359 --> 00:44:19.640
a very sad thing for a very long time um

00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:23.920
Crisis 3 I'm hoping starts to turn this around they I've heard that it will I've

00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:29.040
heard that it will uh Yuri whatever his name is has basically said you know what

00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:33.760
screw your graphics card and your memory and your CPU I'm going to crush it all

00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:39.559
so great I think that's great for PC gaming um Star Citizen using cry engine

00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:44.040
3 y looks really exciting space Sim game so I'm hoping it all turns around but

00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:48.400
when when when guys pitch those sort of PC gaming as growing numbers they're

00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:52.000
talking wow they're talking Leal Legends uh Wow's going down actually okay

00:44:50.319 --> 00:44:56.640
whatever they're talking about mainstream stuff pegle these are

00:44:54.680 --> 00:45:01.359
technically PC games these are technically PC Gamers but they're not

00:44:58.640 --> 00:45:04.480
buying GTX 680s No so at the end of the day NVIDIA again is a public company

00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:08.640
what do they have to do they have to reduce their rmas they have to find

00:45:07.200 --> 00:45:15.000
other ways to tighten up their business they have to take smaller dieses 680 is

00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:16.520
a smaller die size than I think at least

00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:21.640
three or four generations back of high-end cards one thing too though like

00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:26.079
uh NVIDIA's always had there it's in the game campaign but they used to be way

00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:29.440
more aggressive about it and stuff like Borderlands where they made it kind of

00:45:27.680 --> 00:45:33.720
cheesy where it's just it detects what kind of graphics card you have and literally takes things out of the game

00:45:32.319 --> 00:45:37.599
if you have an ATI card have you seen that yeah I showed you that okay um it's

00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:42.119
pretty brutal like they'll take out water pipes that shoot water out ATI

00:45:40.040 --> 00:45:45.839
cards can create water I'm sure that's not a big deal um but they just removed

00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:50.720
it from the game like if they changed their push with that and made it so that

00:45:47.839 --> 00:45:54.359
NVIDIA sponsored games were just intense and had awesome Graphics hardware and

00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:59.200
really really really good resolutions and just

00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:03.000
conses and by the sound of things Wii U isn't going to turn it all around no not

00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:06.400
exactly but like there is games coming out look at Kickstarter there's so many

00:46:04.200 --> 00:46:09.800
games coming out that are just PC right so do it for the games that are just PC

00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:14.480
why would NVIDIA sponsor a game that's coming out on Kickstarter is kind of the best thing to happen to the PC gaming

00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:17.720
industry like ever it's actually been kind of amazing cuz the whole problem

00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:22.400
with PC gaming and you guys can argue about it till you're bleue in the face the problem with PC gaming has been

00:46:20.160 --> 00:46:26.119
piracy because at the end of the day it's the most pirated platform so if

00:46:24.240 --> 00:46:33.079
you're going to produce a game for one platform it's not going to be PC period

00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:37.440
um on the other hand Kickstarter takes all the risk away from the developer

00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:40.200
although I would argue that the well yeah because they get the money up front

00:46:38.640 --> 00:46:44.280
they know at least their cost is covered so if anyone buys the game then it will

00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:48.440
be profitable it's it's already profitable in a lot of situations because they're selling the game in a

00:46:46.520 --> 00:46:53.240
lot of in almost every single every single Kickstarter situation um you're

00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:56.880
buying it or if you're going below the buying price which most people don't

00:46:54.920 --> 00:47:00.960
don't tell my wife I I don't if you can hear us but I'm actually thinking about

00:46:58.240 --> 00:47:03.920
buying the $250 Star Citizen package oh my goodness it comes no it comes with

00:47:02.359 --> 00:47:08.440
the baller ship for if you do one of my friends for

00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:12.440
my birthday bought me the star citizen package not not the two I think it's the

00:47:10.839 --> 00:47:16.359
one that just gets you the game just the game okay and I I get a ship but it's

00:47:14.240 --> 00:47:20.720
not like the most amazing thing um so basically I get to blow you up right

00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:22.760
when the game comes out in yeah I don't

00:47:20.720 --> 00:47:26.280
think I get Alpha either I get I think I get ba oh you don't get Alpha I don't

00:47:24.200 --> 00:47:31.160
think so so basically by by the time you get beta I'll be an expert and my ship

00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:35.160
will be Ownage and H I wonder if you get to carry that onward anyways um yeah I

00:47:33.680 --> 00:47:40.280
got to carry it on I actually I don't know yeah I don't know a lot of them don't let you um so anyway sorry you

00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:44.160
were saying kickstarters include the game I'm trying to remember where I was

00:47:42.240 --> 00:47:47.280
going with that yeah so a lot of their sales are already done right that's the

00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:51.800
thing and they have to calculate calculate that in like yes this budget

00:47:50.359 --> 00:47:56.359
gets to go towards the development of the game but that budget also has to go

00:47:53.720 --> 00:48:00.960
towards paying everyone because a huge portion most of their

00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:04.640
sales are done before the game is released right which is kind of a really

00:48:02.520 --> 00:48:08.760
interesting platform kind of scary really scary for a lot of people but no

00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:12.400
they're also hitting like 300% of their margins in a lot of situations project

00:48:10.200 --> 00:48:16.319
eternity was insane project attorney wanted like I don't remember the numbers

00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:21.839
I'm sorry but I think they wanted like $800,000 and they ended up getting

00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:24.240
almost 4 million wow okay uh okay here's

00:48:21.839 --> 00:48:29.200
the risk then because okay so your point that most of the sales are probably

00:48:27.319 --> 00:48:34.559
launches would counter that and I would say many customers will be very UNC

00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:38.040
unless it's an extremely reputable developer about giving money to a

00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:42.559
developer basic there's no way to get Kickstarter money back no um if if it

00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:45.800
doesn't hit their anyways yeah keep going well no if the project goes ahead

00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:49.920
they say thank you for the money it's a Kickstarter it's it's a it's a it's a

00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:53.559
seed fund you don't get it back if the project sucks or the game isn't very

00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:59.280
good so you're paying 40 bucks for the game that's that's the cost of a game on

00:48:56.720 --> 00:49:03.200
Steam or whatever discounted game um what if it turns into a Duke Nukem

00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:07.160
Forever type of fiasco where 13 years later you paid $40 for this game did

00:49:05.680 --> 00:49:10.599
speaking did you see the Google image of the guy who had his original pre-order

00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:13.720
yeah anyway from it was like all decrepit but that's the situation that

00:49:12.359 --> 00:49:17.440
we could potentially be creating so I think lots of people will hold out until

00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:20.480
the game's done yeah and they can do that one thing you're doing is like uh

00:49:19.240 --> 00:49:25.319
if any you guys follow the project attorne one Obsidian made some of the

00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:29.839
most iconic games that have ever been rele relas but lately haven't been doing

00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:33.559
that amazing uh they have publicly blamed this previously on the people

00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:39.160
that have been funding them they pushed the project dates they pushed the project dates then the game is released

00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:42.480
uncomplete Brink think about Brink for a second Brink was like one of the biggest

00:49:41.160 --> 00:49:46.920
disappointments of a game that I've ever released I was so excited for brink and

00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:52.000
then it was so terrible because it was so obviously unfinished um it was not

00:49:50.680 --> 00:49:55.680
polished the single player was multiplayer with Bots that was literally

00:49:53.799 --> 00:49:59.599
like you click on single player and you might like it's the exact same map

00:49:57.640 --> 00:50:02.839
that's in multiplayer you do the exact same thing except there's bots on your

00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:05.960
team and bots on the other team like that's not a single player there's

00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:12.319
random cinematics as you're running through it's like oh cinematic randomly like what I don't care this means

00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:17.240
nothing it was just horribly unpolished and uncomplete and if you get your

00:50:14.520 --> 00:50:20.599
budget from fans and you can set it whatever date you want is well you have

00:50:19.040 --> 00:50:25.520
to set it yeah within reason within reason because you have to set a date and then

00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:29.000
conf your fans have to accept that date when they're paying for it so they have

00:50:26.839 --> 00:50:33.480
to know it has to be reasonable but you can have these allowances that you've

00:50:31.839 --> 00:50:38.640
never really had before you can develop things that you weren't able to before because people ask for it okay let's go

00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:43.040
back and do let's do some quick Twitter questions so coach SLO says he likes the

00:50:41.160 --> 00:50:45.920
show format of the show tonight glad to hear it you know what viewership is

00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:49.520
actually better than it's been since I think the first show that I did so

00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:58.160
people were either tuning in because they're super excited to meet the legendary slick himself without a bag on

00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:04.400
his head he maybe I'll wear the bag for a bit so people were either super

00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:05.960
excited about that or uh or or they

00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:11.640
really are enjoying okay I can't read the screen but um okay I'm enjoying the

00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:14.240
format of the show something something are the main things I should look for

00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:17.319
what are the main things to look for for a monitor for gaming and video editing

00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:23.520
well those are two completely different things you want a gaming monitor you want a 120 HZ panel you want video

00:51:20.680 --> 00:51:27.119
editing you need an IPS panel or PLS panel so opposite

00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:32.760
you got to figure out which one's more important to you is my secondary laptop

00:51:29.720 --> 00:51:35.280
fast enough to run crisis 2 no maybe

00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:39.720
slick wants food slick already ate yeah what did you have tonight slick I had a

00:51:38.359 --> 00:51:43.920
I don't know what they're called I had a Whopper and I had their fish burger

00:51:41.680 --> 00:51:49.079
thing cuz on Fridays Burger King has $2 fish Burgers never had one before it

00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:51.000
honestly wasn't that bad y Burger King

00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:54.960
by the way Burger King is a proud sponsor of the lion tips live stream

00:51:53.480 --> 00:52:00.480
tonight they fed me although I had to pay for it oh well I'm sort of

00:51:56.720 --> 00:52:04.880
sponsorship yeah I guess you have

00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:07.760
to uh okay so question from dwn oh no I

00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:11.760
was eating that oh do you want some okay my wife's stealing my pomegranate um so

00:52:10.240 --> 00:52:15.280
T Egra 3 isn't cutting it what are your thoughts on qualcom Snapdragon S4

00:52:13.240 --> 00:52:19.599
quadcore chips I mean that's the thing is these mobile chips are getting so

00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:23.839
much faster so quickly that it's really exciting but my whole argument was just

00:52:22.160 --> 00:52:28.280
that Apple will always be able to be ahead of the curve because bcom only

00:52:26.240 --> 00:52:32.720
gets to take money for the chip just the same way NVIDIA only gets to take money

00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:36.839
for the chip or anyone else even armed to a lesser extent only gets to take

00:52:34.799 --> 00:52:41.400
money for the chip and apple gets to take money for the entire

00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:44.160
solution AMD will be up for sale next year most probably you know what we

00:52:42.720 --> 00:52:48.760
can't speculate on that no we're not speculating on that you looked like you're about to say something no I

00:52:46.359 --> 00:52:52.880
wasn't I was just like well because if they do any glad to hear you guys like

00:52:50.839 --> 00:52:59.000
the format of the show uh thoughts on the Black Widow ultimate 2013

00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:03.920
um if they have their new uh what is it called synopsis drivers synapse synapse

00:53:01.680 --> 00:53:08.760
drivers I am not a fan if they have those so synapse drivers basically for

00:53:06.520 --> 00:53:13.799
you guys who don't know Razer synapse software allows you to save like let's

00:53:11.680 --> 00:53:16.280
say this was a you know what let's say this was a

00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:25.760
mouse let's say this is a mouse um so it allows you to save to the

00:53:24.799 --> 00:53:30.640
cloud all the DPI settings all the macro settings all the settings that you would

00:53:29.200 --> 00:53:34.720
have had for this mouse did you know you can even save the adjustable weight

00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:40.640
settings in the bottom of the mouse uh what sorry that makes no sense

00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:44.960
but you save it in the cloud so if you take that Mouse and plug it into any

00:53:42.799 --> 00:53:50.000
computer log into synapse it will know all of your settings no big deal and it

00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:52.160
can even save game per game profiles Y

00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:56.400
which is very cool as well why don't Gamers like this because if you lose

00:53:54.520 --> 00:54:00.520
your internet connection for any reason you lose all of your settings because

00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:05.160
they save it in the cloud if they had it so like uh okay I really don't like

00:54:03.520 --> 00:54:09.480
origin but this is actually something to do well they have cloud storage for save

00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:14.799
save files so Battlefield 3 if I don't have my Battlefield 3 save file that's

00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:19.000
fine I can play the game but if and this is what irks me about steam too are they

00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:21.839
implementing that yet I believe so every game should just have Cloud save files

00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:25.680
it's ridiculous that they don't anyway go ahead um I don't I know they do for

00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:27.920
settings I don't know if they do for sa I don't think they do I don't think so

00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:32.920
either because there so many different developers like it might be supported on valve games but that would be amazing

00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:37.079
well most valve games don't have single player except for Half Life anyways uh

00:54:35.319 --> 00:54:43.880
when are we getting episode three okay go ahead I really want to

00:54:40.200 --> 00:54:46.040
know but yeah um so like with origin's

00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:49.680
thing if you are activated the internet it'll take that opportunity and download

00:54:47.839 --> 00:54:52.960
the save file for you it'll ask you first it's like do you want to sync up

00:54:51.319 --> 00:54:56.839
blah blah blah blah blah if you say yes downloads it that's awesome if you have

00:54:54.920 --> 00:55:00.640
it in you're offline that's awesome that doesn't really matter with razer's new

00:54:59.040 --> 00:55:04.760
setup the second you lose internet connection you lose all of your settings

00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:10.280
so all a sudden you have like a $10 Mouse instead of this beast mode level

00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:17.079
of expensive mouse that you bought and it just I don't know so you're saying

00:55:12.040 --> 00:55:19.559
that's a problem that's yes it's not

00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:22.680
okay should computers be switched off or left on uh put it in

00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:30.400
sleep um Apple has iTunes Android has Google Play most of the

00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:33.559
okay oh that's an interesting take on us so we have a lot of international

00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:36.559
viewers on our live streams here's a complaint that a lot of the features

00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:40.839
built for Android are exclusive to the US I mean Google Maps isn't um I'd love

00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:44.079
for you guys to sort of pitch in on Twitter or the actually you know what

00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:47.720
I'm GNA give this one to the twitch chat guys he probably means North America

00:55:46.160 --> 00:55:55.599
I've never had a SE North America okay yeah because guys we're in Canada

00:55:50.319 --> 00:55:58.960
um so have you guys run into any issues

00:55:55.599 --> 00:56:00.440
with Google applications not working

00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:05.000
outside of North America and this is only for the nonn North American

00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:09.640
viewers so we're going to the twitch chat there we go we're going to cover up

00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:16.760
slick for a change no one wants to see him anyway Android is insanely popular in

00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.760
like India goog

00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:23.359
places fine W it's going really fast

00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:27.480
it's hard to read maybe we should turn on slow mode okay apparently New Zealand

00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:31.640
is fine china apparently recently banned some of the uh well that's China that

00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:36.280
doesn't count China doesn't count it's like a six of the population but that's

00:56:33.520 --> 00:56:41.200
China Banning it that's not it just straight up not working Puerto Rico is

00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:46.799
apparently fine Google Maps was apparently broken in the UK but then Sur

00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:46.799
only half works there too

00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:53.240
okay Australia stupid Maps yeah okay but

00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:56.720
then again like Apple's maps are stupid everywhere as far as I can tell yeah

00:56:55.280 --> 00:57:02.559
Dominican Republic apparently fine Singapore Malia's fine

00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:05.920
okay Mexico doesn't have Google Music so the only real complaint so far seems to

00:57:04.160 --> 00:57:08.760
be about like Google Music more than anything else

00:57:07.160 --> 00:57:14.359
so okay what else we got here on Twitter we

00:57:11.839 --> 00:57:18.960
just a tore apart in Athlon 64 it's cool that's very sad because that was like

00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:18.960
the last thing they made that was

00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:25.720
awesome yeah they've been talking about this for a while actually deemphasizing

00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:28.960
desktop and and they probably should because they're just losing I wonder

00:57:27.640 --> 00:57:35.240
what's going to happen with Intel though because wouldn't that make them a monopoly um yeah potentially on the

00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:38.720
other hand are they a monopoly if ARM continues along the path that they're

00:57:36.680 --> 00:57:43.680
going right that's a good point yeah because they'll be developing for GU

00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:50.559
yeah and if if Windows RT gets the kind of support that I personally hope it

00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:52.520
gets then there will be real legitimate

00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:56.799
desktop applications that'll run on ARM yep Y and Windows I mean my hope my

00:57:55.400 --> 00:58:01.119
personal Hope just to see more competition is that by the time we see

00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:05.680
Windows 9 Windows 10 it's actually a unified skew if there was a way to do it

00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:09.160
if there's a way to do it or it's like it's a single image and then it either

00:58:07.640 --> 00:58:14.359
installs an ARM version or it installs an x86 version and and honestly soon

00:58:12.839 --> 00:58:17.880
enough it'll be fast enough and I don't think it'll matter soon enough it'll be

00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:21.559
fast enough and applications will continue to get more threaded so ARM can

00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:26.400
just throw more cores at the problem which they're very good at Y and to the

00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:29.599
user it should be completely transparent where you just download something I

00:58:27.839 --> 00:58:37.160
think much the same way that you still see like iTunes you still have x86 x64

00:58:33.160 --> 00:58:39.079
versions ARM version done I I'm I'd be

00:58:37.160 --> 00:58:43.319
very excited I'd be very excited to see something like

00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:47.559
that uh Windows 8 Black Friday or Cyber Monday sales very unlikely it's already

00:58:45.319 --> 00:58:53.880
really cheap what's your take on Disney buying Star Wars this this is a

00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:56.240
fantastic topic for discussion because I

00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:59.599
think it's fantastic F you know what I'm going to let slick give you guys his

00:58:57.720 --> 00:59:04.160
opinion I actually don't care about his opinion I'll be back in a

00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:08.240
moment uh I'm surprised you worded it like that because I kind of

00:59:05.799 --> 00:59:12.200
agree well give your opinion about how you agree with me because that's a

00:59:10.680 --> 00:59:19.599
pretty safe opinion to have because I'm pretty clever um look what they did with the

00:59:16.240 --> 00:59:21.559
Marvel heroes Disney owns Marvel uh I've

00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:25.039
literally never heard of a single person ever complain about Avengers I've never

00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:29.000
heard of a single person ever never complain about Iron Man the only one of

00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:32.960
the new superhero movies that I've actually heard anyone complain about is

00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:35.760
Thor but then they have to follow a certain storyline and I think for

00:59:34.640 --> 00:59:40.799
following that storyline they actually did a really good job with that movie if

00:59:38.640 --> 00:59:46.640
they stay true to Star Wars if they stay true to the older Star Wars movies they

00:59:43.319 --> 00:59:48.200
will do fine in my opinion and if they

00:59:46.640 --> 00:59:52.200
go like way into the future if they don't try and just go like hug the

00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:55.119
storyline if they jump way in the future and make it actually make sense I think

00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:58.319
they'll do a really good job Disney's a really good company they make really

00:59:56.720 --> 01:00:02.599
really good movies I think everything will be just completely fine I'm sure

01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:07.520
they'll spend the money to cast it right they seem to spend the money to cast everything right Disney's huge um I

01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:12.559
don't think there'll be a casting problem I don't think there'll be a budget

01:00:09.799 --> 01:00:16.280
problem yeah I think it'll be great hopefully if there's anything that

01:00:14.359 --> 01:00:19.359
Mickey Mouse has it's plenty of money yeah Mickey Mouse has a ton of freaking

01:00:17.839 --> 01:00:23.119
money um what was I going to say I kind of

01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:27.240
hope that they follow one of the story lines from the book it would be cool to

01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:31.000
like mace Wu or one of the epics in there would be

01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:33.839
really cool but then if they keep with the kind of style that they have going

01:00:32.680 --> 01:00:41.720
right now with the people that they have going right now just in the future that would also be great I personally think

01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:44.680
that the whole the whole thing needs to

01:00:41.720 --> 01:00:47.640
be just kind of killed okay this this I meant to bring this onto the stream I I

01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:52.799
actually meant to talk about the whole Disney Star Wars thing even though it wasn't on our agenda today here's my

01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:55.799
take on it and this is going to be really short whatever he talked about

01:00:54.599 --> 01:01:00.680
you don't even need to think about that anymore because this is it could it be

01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:07.319
any worse than this what could anything Disney does be

01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:15.039
any worse than this q e

01:01:11.359 --> 01:01:15.039
d okay next

01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:21.520
topic the reason why NVIDIA isn't working too hard on their ERS they're

01:01:19.640 --> 01:01:26.280
working on Super Micro okay fair enough probably who knows uh new next for I'm

01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:31.839
not much of a phone guy have you heard much about it yeah I've heard really

01:01:28.640 --> 01:01:33.319
good things it's by LG as I'm hoping

01:01:31.839 --> 01:01:36.880
this is all right you know what's really funny is the way that the meaning of LG

01:01:35.319 --> 01:01:41.200
is changed their entire company is called

01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:45.400
LG It's My Life's good I think you mean lucky gold star

01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:48.640
Lucky Gold Star yeah that's what they used to be called yeah yeah not little

01:01:47.319 --> 01:01:54.079
girl um yeah

01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:57.079
just just putting it out there everything about about LG is

01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:03.039
great okay um yeah I've heard really

01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:06.599
good things I had a Nexus before I had the Nexus S absolutely love that phone

01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:11.079
uh the thing that I really like about Nexus phones and like I know I have an S3 right now but I'm going to talk up

01:02:09.520 --> 01:02:16.279
the Nexus a lot more than I'd talk up in S3 is Nexus phones are very Google

01:02:14.640 --> 01:02:20.039
branded even though it's running Android Nexus phones are way more Google branded

01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:23.920
it says Google on the back if you notice S3 is just can't see that that well but

01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:27.680
they just say Samsung all the Nexus phones say Google so Google really cares

01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:31.119
about the software on there and every single time that a new OS would come out

01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:36.720
with my Nexus S I would get it the next day right my uh Nexus S was running

01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:40.440
Jelly Bean um then when that died and I went to go this get this one the reason

01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:45.440
why I was able to get one of these was because I argued saying that with my

01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:48.520
service plan I should get a jelly bean

01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:49.799
device instead of the um I don't

01:02:48.520 --> 01:02:55.680
remember they wanted to give you an S2 I think an S2 which was running an older

01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:57.520
OS so I argued that competent product

01:02:55.680 --> 01:03:02.039
would have the same or better OS than M comparable comparable product would have

01:02:59.720 --> 01:03:05.599
the same or better device's really smart that's why that's why that's why we work

01:03:03.839 --> 01:03:10.160
together but just he's never done this thing before don't worry guys no no so

01:03:08.160 --> 01:03:13.799
yeah um Nexus phones are great they have great support it's going to be

01:03:11.359 --> 01:03:18.720
ridiculously fast okay what about Samsung's value added

01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:24.839
applications they're good you use Death Note today yeah but I could also use

01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:27.559
Evernote okay I mean honestly I'm just playing Devil's Advocate right now

01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:33.119
because I have the same belief I mean you know what I think of how my Galaxy

01:03:29.720 --> 01:03:35.079
Vibrant still is running uh gingerbread

01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:38.039
yeah whereas a Nexus branded phone released around the same time would have

01:03:36.240 --> 01:03:42.440
the latest OS every single time latest OS just way better support I do have to

01:03:40.319 --> 01:03:47.240
sorry keep going no um okay my Galaxy Tab 10.1 got ice cream sandwich like a

01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:50.559
month and a half ago officially yes I know I could root the device yes I know

01:03:49.319 --> 01:03:53.920
I could upgrade it unofficial you know what the camera didn't work with the uh

01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:57.599
with the unofficial upgrade on the tab 10. one why should I have a half

01:03:56.079 --> 01:04:00.440
functional device I've got a buddy at school that's crazy into messing around

01:03:59.200 --> 01:04:06.880
with his phones hacking his phones doing all that kind of stuff and he always finds one little thing that doesn't work

01:04:04.240 --> 01:04:10.480
everything on nexuses will always work I never had a single problem with that

01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:14.559
phone that phone is amazing um I was going to say something but I don't

01:04:11.319 --> 01:04:16.720
remember oh well okay we can do more

01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:24.880
Twitter okay I heard there something something ARM being

01:04:19.319 --> 01:04:26.880
hipsters next to four um oh right we

01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:30.880
have very exciting news you guys now that we've got a pretty full uh full

01:04:28.839 --> 01:04:38.920
live stream I want to let you guys know so yours truly the professional unboxer

01:04:35.359 --> 01:04:43.119
will be attending CES this year and I

01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:47.039
will be accompanied by none other than

01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:49.440
slick PC on Twitter or just slick

01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:53.720
whichever you prefer we are going to be trying to do and guys bear with us here

01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:57.200
so okay okay lus Tech tips domain if you guys go there right now it kind of sucks

01:04:55.119 --> 01:05:01.880
it's like a WordPress blog that's just it automatically publishes um whatever I

01:05:00.319 --> 01:05:06.079
upload to Youtube nothing special nothing you can do just by following me

01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:09.160
on Facebook or following me on Twitter um or subscribing on YouTube which is

01:05:08.240 --> 01:05:14.039
fine too um we're going to revamp that we're

01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:18.480
going to install the latest V bulletin which is not only a forum but is also a

01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:25.480
Content management system so we can do like articles and stuff um we are going

01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:27.520
to attempt okay here CES the biggest

01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:33.240
problem with CES coverage is that it's always lame it's incomplete no matter

01:05:30.200 --> 01:05:36.880
who it is minor publication major

01:05:33.240 --> 01:05:39.880
publication they skip 70% of the show

01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:43.079
and it gets uploaded like a week

01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:45.160
later what this dynamic duo team

01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:49.400
potentially with diesel well we're not sure yet I haven't talked to him about

01:05:46.279 --> 01:05:51.319
it actually but yeah potentially with

01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:56.440
diesel is we're going to attempt to bring you the entire show which is going

01:05:53.880 --> 01:06:01.799
to mean at least 25 to 30 videos covering 3 to five booths each over the

01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:04.440
span of the sort of 3 to four days of this I can't remember it's like three or

01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:09.160
four days that it's running and we are going to try to give

01:06:06.680 --> 01:06:14.400
you guys nightly uploads of everything that we shot that day so it's going to

01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:18.520
almost kill us it may kill us just a little bit just a little bit but if you

01:06:15.720 --> 01:06:22.160
go to the lonus tech tips website around the time of CES mark this in your

01:06:20.319 --> 01:06:24.520
calendar guys mark this in your calendar go there we're going to have little

01:06:23.520 --> 01:06:29.960
written articles to go with every video telling you what's what's in the video what's up

01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:33.680
what's going on and it is going to be the awesomest thing ever we're going to

01:06:31.200 --> 01:06:37.839
be sponsored by Corsair so Corsair is sending us down there so you're going to

01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:41.319
see like a powered by Corsair watermark in the corner and uh and I mean don't

01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:47.480
worry we're going to still cover everything not Corsair there are competitors and all that but uh guys I

01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:52.160
want you you know what I rarely ask you to do this but I want you to if you're

01:06:50.279 --> 01:06:56.279
watching on YouTube I want you to like thumbs up the video and if you're you're

01:06:54.480 --> 01:07:00.640
I don't know watching on Twitch can you like Facebook share a twitch stream or

01:06:58.359 --> 01:07:06.160
like yeah I don't know tell someone about it there forget all this new

01:07:03.640 --> 01:07:09.960
fangled hoo-ha terminology just tell someone about this because it's exciting

01:07:08.240 --> 01:07:14.119
so thank you for reminding me of that slick what else we got here I don't okay

01:07:12.359 --> 01:07:22.920
I'm not going to look at your password I really care okay

01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:24.520
um oh game releases coming up in Q4 okay

01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:30.880
slick more of the game so I'm going to see if there's some interesting tweets and he can talk about that I am ridicul

01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:35.079
okay for some people this is out already for PC I'm ridiculously excited for

01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:38.880
Assassin's Creed 3 that is not out yet on PC I was deceived by the the

01:07:37.520 --> 01:07:44.119
Assassin's Creed 3 trailer I saw it on Zero Punctuation it

01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:49.400
had a song on it that was like I'm coming home I'm coming home tell the

01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:53.359
world I'm coming home I downloaded it and it was a

01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:56.440
rap so I am already not going to buy Assassin's Creed three just for that

01:07:54.720 --> 01:08:01.760
were you going to at all I don't I don't think you own any of the other games no

01:07:58.640 --> 01:08:04.880
exactly so well point is not valid I was

01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:07.440
really disappointed it turned out to be

01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:11.799
Diddy I have no idea what no it was one of those deceptive songs it was like um

01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.920
it was like that Eminem song where yeah where they mix in a really old school

01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:18.080
song and then their yes so it was like that where I was just

01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:22.040
like what the just go down oral talk about your

01:08:20.679 --> 01:08:25.839
little games yeah Assassin's Creed 3 is going to be epic I've been staying away

01:08:23.679 --> 01:08:29.120
from spoilers as much as I possibly can many of you have probably already played

01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:34.400
it if you have consoles but I'm not a huge console fan I wait for things on PC

01:08:32.120 --> 01:08:38.839
um what else is there coming Black Ops 2 is going to be pretty epic I'm thinking

01:08:36.400 --> 01:08:44.839
of one but I can't remember it Black Ops 2 is going to be epic

01:08:42.040 --> 01:08:49.759
zombies okay Nazi zombies is fun Nazi zombies is fun I'm not actually a huge

01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:52.400
Cod fan so I don't know I'm there's

01:08:49.759 --> 01:08:55.880
another one max pay is coming oh wait another one not Max pay no

01:08:54.520 --> 01:09:01.120
uh the guy with the barcode on the back of his head I can't remember the name of

01:08:58.400 --> 01:09:06.640
that game I'm pulling a complete blank yes Hitman Absolution I believe yeah

01:09:04.679 --> 01:09:09.920
yeah there's quite a few other ones but I just can't remember top of my head

01:09:07.719 --> 01:09:14.920
right now but yeah there's a new expansion for Battlefield 3 can't so if

01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:19.120
you bought premium you get it for no additional money right I was going to

01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:22.960
say free but yeah but premium I can't even play right now punkbuster won't

01:09:21.040 --> 01:09:28.480
properly install on my system really yeah I've been trying to fix the H the

01:09:25.120 --> 01:09:29.600
the 800d yeah it's really annoying and

01:09:28.480 --> 01:09:35.960
like I looked on the forums there's a whole bunch of people the same problem as me they just like yeah just play on

01:09:32.400 --> 01:09:38.359
like non-secure servers and I'm like

01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:45.080
okay I tried all the fixes none of them seem to work um exactly cuz like I'm

01:09:42.759 --> 01:09:51.080
like this so I can't play any games I can't W and D so

01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:54.400
like I want to play P vers

01:09:51.080 --> 01:09:56.679
zombies again I don't Diablo 3 oh that's

01:09:54.400 --> 01:10:00.880
true I played it for a bit but I'm just so done with that game anyways um so I

01:09:59.159 --> 01:10:04.600
was like I'll play Battlefield 3 and sit in the base and sit in that little air

01:10:02.360 --> 01:10:08.400
defensive turret and just shoot down flying things all day so that basically

01:10:06.280 --> 01:10:11.760
just makes you just a total jackass pretty much but that's all I could do so

01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:16.080
I like whatever I'll just do that but I couldn't even play for more than two minutes per server so it was completely

01:10:14.320 --> 01:10:20.600
useless at least you had the the excuse of being like handicapped in order to

01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:23.280
behave like that exactly right fine I'll

01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:26.520
give it to you this time um okay storm gaming has a tweet my friend has the Mac

01:10:25.080 --> 01:10:31.120
with the retina screen the screen has broken twice this brings me to one of

01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:36.159
the topics that I wanted to discuss tonight and that is I tried to do this

01:10:34.280 --> 01:10:39.600
on a live stream not that long ago and I kind of failed because it had been a

01:10:37.679 --> 01:10:44.440
really long week and I I like brain farted but I'm going to try and take

01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:49.280
another crack at this okay here's what I'm trying to figure out why can't I

01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:55.120
have a 4K desktop display or laptop

01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:59.800
realistically or laptop even yeah why can't I have that or like anything else

01:10:57.440 --> 01:11:04.199
or anything else and someone really with a huge name that will back us up is

01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:07.080
lonus torval yeah well no he didn't say it's he didn't say it was well no he

01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:11.960
didn't say it was possible and it's just ridiculous okay okay so here here here

01:11:09.480 --> 01:11:16.199
here think about it this way guys okay so 4K what are the

01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:19.280
challenges for a long time it was pixel density yeah

01:11:20.480 --> 01:11:25.080
okay how old is this device three years

01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:30.120
now two and a half years okay iPhone 4 is this pixel this

01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:38.239
pixel density is enough to build a 27in 4k monitor am I right right okay

01:11:35.320 --> 01:11:40.560
so um that's not a problem anymore I'm sorry that's not a problem anymore

01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:47.400
that's not a problem I mean you even look at iPad 3 replacement screens are like 80 bucks so times four why can't I

01:11:46.440 --> 01:11:52.520
buy a $250 or you know more you know let's

01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:58.199
let's say $350 $400 I don't care I just want one like 27 inch monitor why can't

01:11:54.719 --> 01:12:00.400
I do that 30inch monitor you know um

01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:03.360
people have proven I'm holding an S3 we've got iPhone 5es all over the place

01:12:02.040 --> 01:12:06.960
even though they have like almost no improvement anyways people have proven

01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:13.960
that people it's more than you can say I

01:12:10.360 --> 01:12:15.480
don't um anyways uh people have proven

01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:19.560
that they will spend money on devices even if they make no sense so what you

01:12:17.400 --> 01:12:22.960
mean make no sense I would argue that something like a MacBook Retina makes a

01:12:21.280 --> 01:12:27.719
lot of sense I that over any other notebook I was just taking a crack at iPhone 5 I

01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:30.840
would buy a higher red screen why don't we have higher red screens that are

01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:34.120
optional to buy people will buy it people cared so much of all the Rea

01:12:32.480 --> 01:12:38.840
display and it's not even that impressive like it's awesome and it way

01:12:36.679 --> 01:12:42.600
better than everything else I agree but it could be so much better could be

01:12:40.639 --> 01:12:49.760
better okay okay so the argument there might be um bigger stuff costs more and

01:12:47.040 --> 01:12:55.920
I would like to I would like to direct your attention to this when is the last

01:12:53.199 --> 01:13:01.960
time you went to your local big box retailer and checked out the prices of

01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:03.920
TVs how much do they cost nothing

01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:08.920
compared to before people bought big TVs before so a 55 in TV you can get for as

01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:15.960
little as I think around 600 700 800 bucks so if that costs $800 and yes the

01:13:13.280 --> 01:13:22.159
pixel density is lower but I still don't think the pixel density of of you know a

01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:26.920
30in version of that should be you know an engineering or manufact in Nightmare

01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:33.639
so this is only $800 the density we need is like 80

01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:36.280
bucks 90 bucks why isn't there something

01:13:33.639 --> 01:13:40.480
in the middle that marries these two things it just doesn't seem that

01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:43.880
complicated it really it shouldn't be that hard it just should not be that

01:13:42.040 --> 01:13:47.280
hard I mean okay here couple things yields so it comes down to the same

01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:54.080
thing we were talking about with die size for chips before you have to have a

01:13:49.719 --> 01:13:56.199
yield of a panel so if you go okay like

01:13:54.080 --> 01:13:59.760
they build they build LCDs in in large large large panels they cut them up

01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:02.840
essentially like they cut them up okay so if you're going to manufacture rtina

01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:06.880
displays you're going to manufacture a big old thing like this and you're going to go okay here's all the places with

01:14:05.440 --> 01:14:11.440
defects that we can't use and you cut around them

01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:16.880
essentially so okay if you build a bigger high density panel you're going

01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:21.520
to lose some yep but then you build it into the price exactly you always build

01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:25.120
that into price that's part of business and then the other thing is the demand

01:14:23.400 --> 01:14:29.679
the demand for these high density panels is extremely high you look at something

01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:35.719
like Nexus 10 um where what what is they what are they 1920 x 12 no is it 2560 I

01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:39.800
think so I think it's 2560 by 1600 which is ridiculous and honestly tiger 3 is

01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:46.040
not fast enough for that I'm I'm really excited for like a Nexus 10.2 or

01:14:42.440 --> 01:14:48.159
something but um but okay okay so

01:14:46.040 --> 01:14:53.440
there's demand but there's that just charge more for it tablets don't even

01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:57.880
cost that much you could just take like the screen and charge you know quadruple

01:14:56.800 --> 01:15:05.080
what you would have charged for that screen on the tablet and I mean if I'm Samsung if I'm LG if

01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:10.480
I'm one of these guys that's actually manufacturing this stuff why can't

01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:17.040
Samsung release a 4K desktop monitor why are we getting stuff like

01:15:12.440 --> 01:15:20.320
this beautiful monitor by the way 1080p

01:15:17.040 --> 01:15:22.159
why and like I remember watching a video

01:15:20.320 --> 01:15:27.600
quite a while ago on YouTube of them like this was quite a while ago of them

01:15:24.440 --> 01:15:29.320
showing off this 4K TV and it was oh oh

01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:33.120
my goodness oh my goodness 4K technology they have one you can't buy it it's

01:15:30.639 --> 01:15:37.320
super exclusive but they have one why can't we buy well we can Sony has a

01:15:35.400 --> 01:15:42.159
25,000 I know but like it should be so much more available and not 25,000 and

01:15:40.480 --> 01:15:47.360
that's the thing is there what's the manufacturing problem with with building

01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:52.199
these large format displays with higher higher resolution I don't understand um

01:15:49.480 --> 01:15:57.880
so that was that was another topic so yes lus me is totally in agreement with

01:15:56.120 --> 01:16:02.120
lonus toor's the other guy you know the Linux guy he did something once for

01:16:00.360 --> 01:16:07.400
technology no what I do is way more important than him um hey I'm unboxing

01:16:05.480 --> 01:16:13.880
the h100i what are you doing with your life I'm not saying I'm as good as line

01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:14.880
of stbl anyway um but where was I going

01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:18.920
right so we should have higher resolution displays personally okay okay

01:16:17.400 --> 01:16:24.760
yeah we'll be locked into DisplayPort I guess in order to make sure that cuz

01:16:20.719 --> 01:16:27.600
HDMI is like oh yeah 4K support at 24

01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:31.440
FPS yay yay um so yeah we'll have to use display

01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:35.920
port so we need to make sure we have the interconnects that can work but come on

01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:40.400
I mean even that's like DVI dual link DVI has been around for how long how

01:16:38.320 --> 01:16:46.159
complicated is the chip on either end Double it yeah quadruple it 10x it does

01:16:43.360 --> 01:16:51.280
it matter will you pay an extra $2 for a graphics card if you know it can drive a

01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:52.800
4K or an 8K display right I mean display

01:16:51.280 --> 01:16:56.440
port is even capable of the bandwidth that we need already so as is jumping

01:16:55.320 --> 01:17:03.920
back to a topic we were talking about earlier with uh PC games not being hard enough to run I run my 480 and have no

01:17:02.120 --> 01:17:07.960
problems with anything I Crush everything that comes in my way make me

01:17:06.080 --> 01:17:12.520
want to upgrade my graphics card yeah I know a lot Crisis 3 Star Citizen and I

01:17:10.679 --> 01:17:17.239
hope they do I hope so too but we don't know yet come on what's up with wow they

01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:21.880
keep does not care they keep upgrading their engine they're like yay we had a

01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:25.760
direct x l

01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:27.800
yay just well tation this this brings

01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:32.320
along another topic about blizzard just being terrible

01:17:29.679 --> 01:17:37.840
lately well like you can't call come on Diablo I was it looked like it was 8

01:17:35.120 --> 01:17:43.320
years old yeah yeah and then okay like Diablo I is like I just kind of a

01:17:41.480 --> 01:17:46.719
failure of a release in my opinion like okay it's a good game but it's a

01:17:45.400 --> 01:17:50.199
blizzard game it should be a ridiculously good Game it shouldn't be a

01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:54.800
pretty good they only release like one game every three years exactly they

01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:58.679
should have crushed torch light and I know right Tor was good torch light was

01:17:56.920 --> 01:18:02.480
awesome I never played Torch Light 2 yet though is it good I've heard it's better I haven't played it either but I've

01:18:00.719 --> 01:18:05.120
heard it's better and like they did not Crush torch light they didn't come close

01:18:04.040 --> 01:18:09.080
to crushing torch light and they should have wow was amazing when it was

01:18:07.400 --> 01:18:13.600
released and some people would argue that it's still good DirectX 11 now old

01:18:11.360 --> 01:18:17.760
who cares it's old and all the expansions are just like okay we added

01:18:15.440 --> 01:18:21.679
some content we added One race it's like well okay that's cool but your game is

01:18:19.400 --> 01:18:24.679
really freaking old they just haven't and like Starcraft 2 the next expansion

01:18:23.320 --> 01:18:29.040
they just push it back because they're like oh people realized that we did

01:18:27.080 --> 01:18:32.600
nothing with it and said it was going to be released this year and we did nothing

01:18:31.440 --> 01:18:38.280
we pulled a whole bunch of units out of the game we added a few and we're like good luck like the um what was the

01:18:36.280 --> 01:18:41.679
original one the original Star c 1 expansion I can't really name brood War

01:18:39.639 --> 01:18:44.360
brood war was huge brood War changed everything and it it changed the entire

01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:50.960
balance totally different game and it was amazing and everyone loved it and it was great and it pushed eorts and it was

01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:52.760
awesome and hard of the Swarm just isn't

01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:57.280
League of Legends is dominating Esports right right now uh Counter Strike is

01:18:54.679 --> 01:19:02.239
like surviving somehow um I love Counter-Strike but it's really old um

01:19:00.120 --> 01:19:06.440
and like there's so many things uh Destiny a Starcraft player I know you

01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:10.600
don't know don't worry um destiny posted something on Reddit that was really long

01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:14.360
about everything that blizzard should be doing it just isn't blizzard reacted

01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:20.880
slightly and said they were going to change a few of the things but they're just not and well they added like higher

01:19:18.360 --> 01:19:26.960
levels of direct X like come on like people keep asking

01:19:24.040 --> 01:19:31.560
me they're like oh I um you know I want to play uh you know I want I'm upgrading

01:19:29.400 --> 01:19:35.000
my graphics card so I can have direct X1 and they'll have like they'll have

01:19:32.719 --> 01:19:39.320
something good like they'll have like uh you know like an older direct X not

01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:44.040
they'll have like a 7900 GTX or something and then they'll be upgrading

01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:47.120
or like they'll have an 8800 GT or something like that and they'll be

01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:54.120
upgrading to like a lowend direct X1 card I'm just like you know what DirectX

01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:58.400
level is not that I mean look at games

01:19:54.120 --> 01:19:59.679
like Witcher 2 dx9 it's a dx9 game it

01:19:58.400 --> 01:20:03.600
looks better than almost anything else for the PC especially with their Uber

01:20:01.639 --> 01:20:08.159
textures especially with their Uber textures and the and honestly I mean

01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:11.360
okay I challenge you guys all the gamers watching this stream right now and we're

01:20:09.480 --> 01:20:15.639
on Twitch TV so at least a handful of you better play video games uh even

01:20:13.440 --> 01:20:21.840
though I don't but half of us play video games he plays video games um Riddle Me

01:20:19.360 --> 01:20:26.920
Okay I I challenge you go find a game that has direct X 9 10 and 11 support

01:20:25.040 --> 01:20:30.920
and do a blind taste test with yourself get someone to change them around on you

01:20:28.400 --> 01:20:34.000
and see if you can even tell it's hard like play the game though you don't get

01:20:32.360 --> 01:20:38.840
to like walk around like this and look at the textures on the floor you don't get to do that that's cheating yeah like

01:20:37.440 --> 01:20:44.719
like like I said it's hard you'd have to do stuff like that to really notice the difference okay so that brought us ah

01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:48.920
iPhones are made of more environmentally did you know that right now there is not

01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:53.360
an efficient recycling technique for touch screens I actually did not know that but

01:20:52.040 --> 01:20:59.840
efficient recycling technique the sweeten anyways um okay but for touch

01:20:57.400 --> 01:21:04.880
screens there's no there's no environmentally safe disposal method for

01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:09.679
them the problem why is the bonding layer in between the touch interface and

01:21:07.159 --> 01:21:12.159
the panel where is it made of uh I don't remember but it means you can't separate

01:21:11.320 --> 01:21:16.639
them anymore and uh apparently this is like a

01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:22.760
huge problem and as more and more touch I mean well so many phones exist like so

01:21:19.440 --> 01:21:25.159
many phones but now multiply that times

01:21:22.760 --> 01:21:29.120
whatever for a tablet times whatever for a notebook times whatever for a desktop

01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:34.760
monitor because everyone's doing it for Windows 8 uh all-in-one computers um

01:21:33.280 --> 01:21:40.280
older older style touch screens it wasn't a problem pressure sensitive ones like for POS terminals but it's a really

01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:45.239
I mean I'm not really going anywhere with this but it's just a really interesting thing to think about I mean

01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:49.120
on the other hand when I was a kid Tetra packs were a big problem because there's

01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:52.280
no way to recycle them whereas now every Tetra pack is recyclable because I'm

01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:56.000
sure they'll come up with something some guy won some award for coming up with a

01:21:54.719 --> 01:22:00.400
way I hope they come up with something but it's just something to think about right now guys so don't buy you know

01:21:58.719 --> 01:22:04.840
more touch screens than you absolutely need if you don't absolutely need to

01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:10.440
science will find a way on the other hand I do work at NCI so buy lots of new

01:22:07.239 --> 01:22:12.679
technology gear um and

01:22:10.440 --> 01:22:16.920
stuff okay don't like the S3 it's plasticky see H it is plasticky Storm

01:22:15.400 --> 01:22:20.480
gaming is with me and I'm not a huge fan of that either I don't like the back I

01:22:19.040 --> 01:22:27.840
wish it had a textured back like my old Nexus has it I'll admit Z oh hey I

01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:29.560
wanted to ask you guys um how's the

01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:35.239
audio levels tonight because I've had complaints in the past from people watching on mobile device mobile mobile

01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:39.520
mobile devices or anything like that they're saying they couldn't turn the audio levels up enough so I hope it's uh

01:22:38.360 --> 01:22:46.920
I hope it's good enough tonight let's check the uh the twitch chat um audio is Good crap good clear

01:22:45.040 --> 01:22:51.360
and Cris perfect extremely good better okay awesome glad to hear it thank you

01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:55.280
twitch for letting me know and uh we've got a correction El was was fired yes we

01:22:53.480 --> 01:22:58.960
know I think we said he was gone I don't think we said he left I don't know I I

01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:02.480
was saying he left but I was talking about tiny Tom Logan oh okay he might

01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:09.199
have I don't know if I might have said the same thing or he heard the wrong thing or whatever are you wearing a Team

01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:12.800
Liquid hoodie yes oh you're so

01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:14.360
lame Esports isn't Sports and I know I'm

01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:18.880
on Twitch TV right now saying that it's not going to make me popular but it's

01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:22.120
not Sports you know what it comes it's it's but they they preface it with

01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:25.880
something they know they're not like all the rest Sports at least they're not

01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:30.679
poker which tries to call your a sport okay fine that's a lot worse they know

01:23:28.120 --> 01:23:34.920
their Esports I don't know uh okay hold on I have to log into this so you can

01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:39.600
talk more about how Esports is a sport I'm not I'm saying it's an ort it's its

01:23:37.120 --> 01:23:44.520
own little category they don't try and say like oh we're Runners and eye

01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:47.600
jumpers and football players they know their Esports they have their own

01:23:46.080 --> 01:23:51.320
category I like that they're not like poker I hate poker poker's like oh yeah

01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:54.120
it's a sport we sit around the table and look at each other that's fun

01:23:53.040 --> 01:23:58.239
yeah but they look at each other really intently intently yeah no I know and

01:23:56.360 --> 01:24:01.920
like and poker's difficult and you can make money yeah poker's difficult you

01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:09.040
can make money it's a challenge more money you can make more money playing poker than you can doing almost any

01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:11.239
other sport other than like you know NBA

01:24:09.040 --> 01:24:14.000
uh well not that NHL players are making any money right now but but they should

01:24:12.560 --> 01:24:17.679
differentiate themselves in some way because it is different so it's a mind

01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:22.639
sport or it's a table they should just call themselves a table

01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:24.520
sport like well magic tries to say come

01:24:22.639 --> 01:24:30.920
on that's like calling Dungeons and Dragons a sport though it's a table game

01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:35.280
poker is a game and Esports are games

01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:37.400
but whoa that was actually impenetrable

01:24:35.280 --> 01:24:41.719
go ahead so then it's a sport because they're all games how is that a sport

01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:45.960
because they game football a game football so you just categorized all of

01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:51.199
them you just beat yourself that's

01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:55.600
impenetrable I'm covering you there's nothing you can do about it

01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:55.600
I hate

01:24:57.159 --> 01:25:02.159
you and apparently Christian thing oh no

01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:07.119
Eclipse thinks you're the handsomest man on the interwebs than

01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:13.239
Eclipse I would argue that I can find someone more handsome than slick on the

01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:17.119
internet oh God stay away from your with

01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:19.000
okay this is kind of scary I'm do this

01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:21.600
handsome man do you have the right search settings here we go here we go

01:25:20.280 --> 01:25:27.880
here we go here we go here we go please don't have the wrong right there handsomer than slick I don't

01:25:25.400 --> 01:25:32.440
have a shaver I can't compete with him you don't have a shaver well maybe

01:25:29.719 --> 01:25:36.520
that's why you look scruffy and horrible like some kind of homeless person that's

01:25:34.080 --> 01:25:40.920
for movember okay let's from movember movember is about a mustache you just

01:25:38.679 --> 01:25:44.719
look like a scrub all right let's find let's find

01:25:43.040 --> 01:25:49.440
other men that are more handsome than slick you know what I'm surprised there

01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:54.800
aren't more troll pictures here of like not handsome men at

01:25:51.280 --> 01:25:57.639
all I I'm I'm really surprised okay

01:25:54.800 --> 01:26:03.480
let's try this again I'm just happy Justin Bieber

01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:05.760
didn't come up there we go this is more

01:26:03.480 --> 01:26:10.239
along this is more your speed I disagree I would I would make

01:26:08.480 --> 01:26:13.320
that argument that that is that is more that is more your speed and we are going

01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:18.119
to go back to Twitter where they are going to all hardcore agree with me I

01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:21.480
don't like so I'm pretty sure that they are can we google small people I'm

01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:28.320
pretty sure that we can't Google small people because I'm not going to talk to you about

01:26:25.199 --> 01:26:31.560
that all right we're back to Twitter oh

01:26:28.320 --> 01:26:33.320
go to that top guy top guy all right we

01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:39.080
have a question on Twitter from vag vag let's call them vag let's go

01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:42.159
with v let's go with vag um vag 93 says how come mechanical keyboards are so

01:26:40.639 --> 01:26:47.440
expensive do you think it's a matter of time before prices become more

01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:49.040
reasonable uh not necessarily uh I would

01:26:47.440 --> 01:26:53.080
say not ever not at all yeah I don't think so I don't think they'll ever be cheaper uh mechanical keyboards don't

01:26:51.639 --> 01:26:57.320
really break down so you don't have the ability to just buy more all the time

01:26:55.600 --> 01:27:01.239
like with uh membran keyboards where they'll just die okay look at it this

01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:08.159
way do cars get cheaper as a category no not really why

01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:11.360
well prices always go up yes steel costs more than it did last year but I think

01:27:09.480 --> 01:27:15.159
he's asking in relation to membrane keyboards no but okay hold on because

01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:20.840
well no I think he just says they're so expensive do you think it's a matter time before they come down so steel

01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:26.000
costs more glass costs more everything costs more a Electronics customers are

01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:30.520
so spoiled because this is the only product in the world it actually goes

01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:36.440
down where advancing the technology inherently makes it cheaper yeah whereas

01:27:33.440 --> 01:27:41.320
like a car you want to like machine more

01:27:36.440 --> 01:27:42.960
valves into an engine like it costs more

01:27:41.320 --> 01:27:48.400
mechanical keyboard a mechanical keyboard there's nothing digital about

01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:50.920
it it costs what it costs to build those

01:27:48.400 --> 01:27:55.040
key switches well okay I didn't no I don't mean there's nothing digital about

01:27:52.679 --> 01:28:00.760
it that's what you said well I'm talking about a mechanical key switch okay um so

01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:06.560
mechanical key switch there's okay I can't believe he's doing this you guys

01:28:02.400 --> 01:28:11.520
have to see this he's climbing in my

01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:14.119
blinds rocket hey get down don't think

01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:18.520
that's you brat okay I got it so rocket is joining

01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:23.400
our live stream which he doesn't usually do no um right so I think it's a little

01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:28.880
there you go there we go so mechanical keyboards inherently cost money they are

01:28:25.719 --> 01:28:30.040
digital yes but like not the switch um

01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:35.400
and there's nothing that can make them come down in price because there's nothing to miniaturize yeah and it costs

01:28:33.480 --> 01:28:39.520
more to make them well I guess he didn't I guess he wasn't saying in relation so

01:28:37.040 --> 01:28:43.520
yeah no more than more than membranes it won't come down and with more people

01:28:41.920 --> 01:28:48.480
likely going the way Logitech did with their g710 plus there's all the features

01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:53.080
added in I mean the only reason membrane keyboards came about at all was because

01:28:51.080 --> 01:28:57.480
of the way that in electronics inherently get cheaper as the computer

01:28:55.080 --> 01:29:02.040
got cheaper it became less and less justifiable to include a keyboard that

01:28:59.679 --> 01:29:05.440
costs a $100 to manufacture yeah if you're selling a keyboard or a computer

01:29:03.679 --> 01:29:10.679
that's a $1,000 total as opposed to $5,000 total wasn't viable for IBM to

01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:15.280
make their model M's anymore I mean just the same way that video cards you know

01:29:13.400 --> 01:29:19.400
um six seven years ago we're talking you know 9800s and stuff like that used to

01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:22.440
come with a bunch of games and like a bunch of accessories and like all this

01:29:21.360 --> 01:29:27.920
stuff um and now they don't because inherently

01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:31.159
they were like okay okay actually graphics cards are a great example

01:29:29.280 --> 01:29:33.880
because as the chips get more efficient and they they've kept increasing the die

01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:38.440
sizes over the years so they're not getting cheaper in the same way Electronics usually do but there's a lot

01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:43.400
of stuff that costs more on a graphics card no matter what like power delivery

01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:48.320
coolers are made of copper and aluminum yeah which are always increasing in

01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:50.440
price so uh so that's that's where that

01:29:48.320 --> 01:29:55.960
that squeeze comes from you can't include as many value ad perer

01:29:52.840 --> 01:29:57.560
referals if the thing is going to always

01:29:55.960 --> 01:30:01.679
cost more and that's why if you buy like a prepackaged crap computer like an HP

01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:04.840
you're going to get the worst keyboard and the worst Mouse because they're just

01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:08.760
going to be as cheap as they possibly can so that they can give you functionality and they know that no

01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:12.880
one's going to use it anyway yeah you know what it comes down to is nothing is

01:30:10.440 --> 01:30:17.560
free yeah no such thing as a free L there's no such thing as nothing is free

01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:21.719
if you buy you know if you buy a car that includes the undercoating that

01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:26.159
means they built it in somewhere else y um if you buy a computer that includes a

01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:30.280
fantastic mechanical keyboard you paid for that somewhere you paid for it

01:30:27.639 --> 01:30:34.400
somewhere so you know what if anything I have no problem with stuff just coming

01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:37.800
with less and ultimately me being able to just buy what I actually want as

01:30:36.040 --> 01:30:42.199
opposed to bundling things I don't need that's like uh the Neo Eco uh power

01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:45.840
supplies from anch right like I have bags of generic power cables I don't

01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:50.320
need it to come with the power cable on the other hand speaking as the person who was the buyer for those when they

01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:56.119
came out they actually didn't drop the costs at all for me

01:30:53.320 --> 01:31:00.239
okay so never mind then I actually didn't even get like a 10-cent savings

01:30:58.280 --> 01:31:03.639
on the on the product I assumed they were discounted I don't know however I

01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:07.840
think the packaging actually ended up costing them more because it moved to a

01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:10.239
cardboard packaging right but they could have done that with any power supply

01:31:09.280 --> 01:31:16.440
that's what I'm trying to say well no but I'm saying the money that okay I didn't get a discount on it right

01:31:14.040 --> 01:31:19.159
because they saved money on a cable and spent more on an eco-friendly packaging

01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:22.960
ecofriendly packaging but like if they did that with all their power supplies

01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:28.000
right it would make more sense and then you should get a discount but then there's that one customer who comes

01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:31.199
ripping into your store about how you sold them a computer that didn't work

01:31:30.080 --> 01:31:35.000
and didn't come with everything it needed so you know from the retailer

01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:38.080
side of things but that's how printers have been forever printers never really

01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:43.880
came you know how many customers are angry about that on a daily basis even

01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:49.960
now I mean you worked at Best Buy sadly yes how many customers came in you a new

01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:52.960
one I told them all okay but were you

01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:55.360
ever covering for someone uh yeah it did

01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:58.000
happen I will admit it did happen yeah or if people just come in and grab a

01:31:56.600 --> 01:32:04.600
printer and they don't check the box they wouldn't know um do an ARM wrestle

01:32:01.360 --> 01:32:06.520
with slick do this slick do the stream

01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:11.600
with slick more often it's much more enjoy you know what you guys you guys

01:32:08.719 --> 01:32:15.199
are not loyal at all you guys suck actually no I appreciate every one of

01:32:13.280 --> 01:32:18.840
you tuning in to the live stream I know the timing is super not ideal thanks to

01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:23.560
everyone who's over in Europe and tuning in in the morning and everyone who's in

01:32:21.679 --> 01:32:28.080
s of Eastern Canada United States tuning in super late at night thank you guys

01:32:25.679 --> 01:32:31.560
for joining us I'm not sure if slick will be a regular member of the live

01:32:29.679 --> 01:32:35.440
stream and for now we are going to put him back under

01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:39.520
wraps thank you for watching the live stream tonight and good night and I'll

01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:44.320
see you guys again uh should be next Friday remember you can always check

01:32:41.679 --> 01:32:49.199
twitch.tv/ linch to see when the next live stream is going to be and if you're

01:32:46.639 --> 01:32:52.199
not already following me on Twitter and following slick on Twitter as well

01:32:50.639 --> 01:32:55.280
actually you can send him your Tech questions and stuff uh if you're not

01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:59.520
already following us on Twitter then make sure you're following on Twitter and you'll see notifications about

01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:03.600
upcoming live streams as well good night everyone good night

01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:07.920
guys you're not allowed to talk you got the bag on your

01:33:05.080 --> 01:33:12.840
head that's right good

01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:12.840
slick

01:33:16.040 --> 01:33:23.560
good oh I hit the wrong button I didn't stop the live stream hold on I'm

01:33:20.280 --> 01:33:23.560
stopping it now