and we're live folks it is the revealing
of the legendary slick himself and we've got a lot of cool topics you want to
just kind of say hi to everyone hey everybody how's it
going sorry I actually haven't had a chance to eat dinner yet tonight so I
hope that's uh I hope it's okay with you guys if I just kind of ma on something
half so what I'd like to do is kick
things off with a little bit of Q&A with uh with slick himself if you guys aren't
familiar with our Twitter handles we're actually only going to be monitoring my
Twitter tonight so you're going to want to go
ahead and ask any questions you have on
Twitter and I am going to take a little break and eat and Slick is going to do
some Q&A I have no way to cook it oh that's
okay I don't worry I got this i got this talk at the camera don't talk to me all
right we're a full minute late with the live stream how dare you you know what
we have been guys we have gone through
hell and back to bring you this live stream because we actually had to shoot
another video tonight with um with with Slick's brother actually you want to
talk a little bit about that uh my brother and my mom actually uh my mom is
hosting a charity called uh caregivers night out it's for caregivers of family
members what it's for caregivers of family members and whatnot that don't
get paid for what they're doing so if they're if you're taking care of uh some
sort of family member you don't get paid for it takes up all your time you don't really get any days to yourself this is
for you um it's more just in our area so it's more of a local thing but my
brother thought that he' help fund the event because uh there's dinner and
everything included and it's all paid for by my family brother thought he'd
help fund the event by holding an online Starcraft tournament so it's $5 Buy in
$2.50 goes towards the pot and $2.50
goes towards the charity and yeah it'll be just a fun event for everyone all
right we have some questions for slick
we love you slick that's not really a question here we go okay we're going to
pretend that someone asked slick that there you
go uh build a computer or look into
building a computer there's tons of different places you can go ocn no he
asked how you got started how did I get started uh I built a
computer um when I got started ncx
wasn't really around so I researched some parts online I went on to a couple
forums I don't remember what they were at the time um but just a whole bunch of
old school computer forums asked around for what parts people liked looked up
reviews uh performance reviews whatnot why did you want a computer uh Diablo
okay at the time I wanted to play Diablo yeah okay yeah Diablo is pretty cool is
that Diablo 1 uh at the time that was Diablo I my dad had built a computer for
Diablo 1 awesome okay what else we got here guys you're late which is getting
out of control come on guys I was like two minutes late geez
you guys are killing me here we're waiting very patiently for Hours come on
guys it says okay here just to make this clear I'm going switch to full screen
here okay if you go to Twitch I always
say when we will be live again and wow
that's oh that's going to get that's going to get real confusing real fast see we'll be live again at the time
Pacific time and the date so if you're
ever wondering at what point we are
going to be live again on the twitch Channel you can just check at any time
so so I don't want to hear that you guys waited for hours for the stream because
I told you when it was going to be all right let's do some more Twitter here go
ahead take it away
slick shout out to your mom okay that's
pretty cool um awesome what happened to
your ARM okay I was biking to school came down a hill uh went around a corner
and as I came around the corner a car came up right up beside me so we were
both going around the corner together as we got around the corner and I was coming into school uh I got pushed into
the gutter this was the first big day of fall so there's tons of wet leaves everywhere there's a ramp for people to
walk up onto the sidewalk and I tried to turn up on there what I couldn't see
because of all the leaves that were covering it was that the ramp actually still had a ledge about this much
instead of the side box that was about that much so when I turned to try and go
up on it um my wheel went completely sideways and I went Head Over Heels of
my bike and landed on the big curb right on my shoulder and then screwed up my
hand as well so that was on Monday so so
they're probably going to want to know if your ARM's broken my ARM is not
broken no bones are broken no fractures
um the muscles in my shoulder are pretty messed up and there's a big cut and my
fingers are quite cut up but I can still move them
so cool story
bro here we go guys we got another question for slick uh I've got one
brother no other siblings he's quite interested in technology um he's got his
own water cooled Cosmos 2 um I think you
actually tweeted pictures of that right I have tweeted pictures of that those are pretty early on but if you go to my
Twitter and check out the pictures they're some of the only pictures I have on there so should be able to find it
it's pretty sick it's pry so remember guys you can follow slick on Twitter at
slick PC see I made these cool little Twitter tags for this week which are
very Hightech and I made them in um
Photoshop paint whatever
man all right so slick why did you decide to
show up this time uh I
didn't actually I don't really necessarily care
about showing myself it's always been kind of a fun game for people to look
for me in Reflections I remember one of my favorite things was uh closer to when
I first started uh we had a video where in the background of the TV you could
see me really well so I came with the idea of putting random stuff on my head
we put a a shoe we put a shoe uh
um CP water cooler yeah and something
else was a Bo yeah it was a box or something and that was pretty fun cuz
people got to guess what it was and I don't know some people you know it took
a while but then people started actually noticing it so that was uh that was
pretty awesome yeah okay
um H I actually haven't heard of the 570
LX but if it's basically similar to an h100 but with a thicker radiator then it
should just be yeah yeah pretty much like here say we collectively three
thumbs up because no no don't even don't even try it's there's no
point okay we got more questions here's here's a good
one no I don't
know kind of simple but I didn't really think it was that big of a deal um it's
it's Linus Tech tips so yeah here's
something okay I've actually received
you you guys would be surprised I've actually received a ton of messages over
the year sort of condemning my uh my disrespectful treatment of slick uh
cameraman all these various sorts of characters so slick can you set the
record straight once and for all were your itty bitty feelings hurt by no uh
banter usually goes back and forth off camera um there's there was a couple
where people were like I'm unsubscribing blah blah blah uh the one I remember was
an I don't remember exactly what what it was I think it was MSI z77 gd65 make
sure you're projecting it in theer I think it was the MSI z77 g65a unboxing
outside and I was trying to cover up the Sun so that there was a shadow on it so
you could see it easier I don't remember what he said but people got pretty up
about it no because it was kind of it was kind of homo because you were really
close to me so I was like I well okay I
was like this and I was unboxing something and then you were like you
were like right the I was like whoa you're you're a little close it was just
it was one of those things it was like I thought you were going to give me a man
hug um no no no off camera banter goes back and forth so I can totally
understand how that might have looked on camera but it's actually fine once it's
off camera I give him back it's all and just so you guys know like attached to
my left foot I have like a blade that I've been sticking into his calf and if
he doesn't say that it's okay then I was going to like stab him so
yeah all right what else we got um should be fine here hold on sorry
should be fine try the Windows 7 drivers they should work um my ARM is more
questions about the ARM I mean okay geek tweets
BL oh flip as has a good question so for
the h100i we actually we actually shot an unboxing tonight I'm going to go find
it but slick can probably explain what the difference is um new magnetic
mounting hardware is pretty awesome so that you can easily switch out the
hardware for if you want AMD or Intel the new tubing's great it's really cool
um make sure you're projecting at the camera the radiator seems exactly the
same the new fans are awesome a lot better than what they were before
they're basically uh of course they're SP fans but they're simplified a bit no
more rubber mounting system no more tube through there uh no more ring yeah no
color color customization yeah you can pop on and off show the magnetic M yeah
so see so this is really cool guys so it has 38 in tubing now which is kind of
awesome uh so you can see super thick tubing compar okay you can't see it at
all but super thick tubing compared to what we have had before and instead of
those screws that you use to put the mounting hardware on it you just got a
little clip that goes over top and uh is held in place by a magnet
so you can swap between the Intel and the AMD mounting hardware very very
easily which is really cool so I mean that's well of course they link yeah and
of course they link and the the actual water block is very glossy now and looks
pretty cool yeah looks sweet I mean
glossy bothers me when it's a monitor bezel yeah but when you're not really
touching it all the time or it's not really in like direct dust you know yeah
I mean it's sideways so it should have a hard time settling on there should be
okay I think and positive air flow but
yeah guys we'll have an unboxing coming of the h100 very soon I'm going to
upload it sometime tonight after I upload the live stream video so good
question very good question all right
okay Jared what would you recommend for an nmo gaming mouse and an MMO gaming
blue backlit keyboard well for one thing you're not giving us a lot of options
with the MMO gaming blue backlit keyboard because you can either try to
dig up one of the legendary Logitech g15
gen ones good luck with that cuz the people who have them are you know yeah
yeah not not giving them up um or you could go with something like a COR k90
but the k90 has some compatibility issues with some motherboards unless
they've received BIOS updates um for a
mouse my personal pick is still the Naga
I've used the g600 I've used the M90 M90
is not bad but I would still I would pick the Naga what would you go um I'm
not actually a huge fan of the more MMO branded mice and keyboards um okay but I
think we can all agree k90 is better than k60 yes I'll actually agree with
that um if you if you don't actually use
the macro keys on the side of your keyboard because most people I know that have them don't actually use them um I
know more a lot of people that I know that have MMO like they play a lot of
MMOs and they like their MMO ke use the ones on the mouse but not the keyboard
so if you use the ones on the Mouse um I know rat or mad cats is coming out with
a new MMO Mouse pretty soon um there's k90 there's uh there's quite a few M90
yeah my bad M90 um did you try the g600
yet no oh just feels a little bit laggy to me like it's not oh the Logitech one
yeah yeah I haven't tried it but I've heard a lot of reviews about it being lagy tons of them it just it just
doesn't feel quite right like even something like uh like M60 or M90 or G9
g9x those nice yeah g9x is awesome it's
like twitch responsive but then I noticed um I love Logitech
peripherals but other than their g710
plus which recently came out they're more recent stuff I'm not a huge fan of
g710 plus is kind of outstanding it's pretty great actually and for keyboards
in general if you're looking for a blue backlit keyboard if you want it to be mechanical check out ducky or deck I
know they both do blue backlits all right we have 123 new
interactions oh boy
um ay2 LS to a claro Halo do people
still buy claro cards claro Halo is an
HT Omega card right I believe so I think so yeah claro Halo is a little bit on
the outdated side I mean it's still a very good quality card I'd probably go
with something like uh Zone rst at this point though for a more modern modern
solution that you know is going to keep getting drivers support because with
sound cards there's that super build quality which really doesn't change
because analog and even Dax to a certain point are not advancing nearly as fast
as a lot of stuff but when it comes to driver support that's where you can run
into issues with an obscure sound card and if you get the right sound card you
can get swapable all amps and other things so you can actually change it a bit down the line oh yeah that's true
too um personally I'm not a big fan of
the sort of dedicated physx card modern card are so fast it's kind of
unnecessary um Ryan good question if
you're upgrading to Windows 8 here I'm going to oh I'm going to put our oh it's
not working okay two seconds guys okay slick answer that question and then I
will fix this thing um I personally install Windows 8 on my laptop just to
more try it out because it's a develop my laptop is a permanent development
suite for me um I don't see a huge difference I don't
actually use Optical drives that often anymore uh I'm thinking about swapping
out the optical drive on my laptop actually for an additional uh hard
driver SSD Bay so yeah um I would probably just download it and load it
onto a USB okay yeah I think that pretty
much covers it okay what are you eating lonus oh I'm having a honey garlic honey
garlic pork and uh and rice and broccoli
and okay I thought the cat was uh trying to attack the oh here we already covered
this one awesome uh minet N600 oh okay
here's a good question so um what's his name genp m mignon asks
minet N900 or linkis new AC router so uh
I'm GNA let I'm going to let slick talk in a minute here but first I want to
jump to our uh youtube.com/ ncom so this is the
channel That I maintain for NC sorry I'm going to fix that there we go so this is
the channel I maintained for NC this oh
shoot sorry guys okay sorry the audio should be fixed now now this is the see
you guys are probably freaking out about it now uh this is the channel I maintained for NC and we actually just
did a video on Western digitals myet
family of routers and what we did is we actually went to Slick's house see here
we are in Slick's house and here I'm going to go full screen so I'm going to
let you guys watch this segment because it's kind of interesting on the Western
Digital myet N900 Central router to see
if it can handle anything we can throw out it pretty much his internet
connection is 25 megabit Down 2 megabit
up and we are absolutely hammering it we
have Diablo I as well as another game updating right now we have an FTP
download going on this notebook over a I'm going to skip a bit here
guys so basically here's uh here's me
and slick with Netflix running and a Skype call going at the same time while
we've got the network super loaded up which we of course have permission for
We Are are streaming ah yes we have one of his other roommates you can actually
see diesel here check this out you can see diesel right here filming behind the
camera because that's my end of the Skype call two utorent clients running
on separate PCS all running off
the all right so let's get back to uh
let's get back to business so slick what was your take because we
actually tested the ea4500 that's the cloud cloud router and the minet 900 so
we did that we showed the test with the 900 but take it away the 4500 was kind of
insane uh to put it lightly I we we
brought down the firmware right yeah we we're not using the cloud firmware on it
we brought it off Cloud firmware because neither of us are neither of us are a fan of cloud firmware um we were running
two or three utorent connections that were all downloading and uploading we
were downloading and uploading to an FTP we had a roommate of mine streaming on
Twitch we had just everything we could
possibly a Skype call we had everything we could really think of to hammer the
network and then 4500 just didn't care uh it ran everything perfectly pings
were kind of insane but everything that we were actually doing actively was
running seamlessly now the original
intention of the episode was to show like a head-to-head um because it was WD
who asked us to do the episode about their FastTrack feature which is qos
that is maintenance free you just it's automatic automatic qos um so we were
like okay let's test it against something that doesn't have automatic qos and we were expecting to be able to
demonstrate like a huge difference in the prioritization now the minet did
prioritize the traffic the Netflix stream didn't degrade in quality and the
Skype call was maintained but what happened was when we started to throw
more stuff at it um the like the game
pings when we tried it at the end was about a second on the myet minet router
playing League of Legends around a th MS
so so what that meant was that it was
the the prioritization was working but when we actually put it head-to-head
against the linkis router it wasn't
necessarily a good demonstration let's just put it that way so so pretty much
the answer to that question I think is pretty straightforward I would probably
go with i i okay I don't think I would
actually buy the AC router though because there's nothing AC unless un you
really want it um but the ea4500 is really great and I'm expecting that the
6500 would be pretty much more of the same yeah
okay um yeah see this this pretty much that
pretty much summarizes the sentiments of anyone with uh with g15 Gen one G g15
the best gen two yeah you can have it I had an N g15 for a really really
long time and it took me like it took me like sorry I was looking down cuz I
depressed it took me like 3 months to pick a keyboard when it died cuz I was
just so unhappy when it died and I love mechanical keyboards but there's just
something about g15 like the original g15s that was just absolutely amazing um
I still have it upstairs even though it's completely dead I just kind of
refused to get rid of it I don't know Sim asks what's a good FPS gaming
mouse um I like my g9x I also like g500s
uh like I've already said earlier I'm a pretty big fan of Logitech peripherals
mainly their mice uh actually for keyboards I usually go for more mechanical ones but I guess they have
710 plus now yeah but not in Blue switches so i' probably I I'll wait for
that I'll wait for that um but yeah g9x I really like G500 I really like the
meic one is also really good yeah zal 60 is what I'm using these days well that's
their keyboard yeah it's like their did he ask mice mouse oh the naos uh naos
5,000 or 500 naos 500 yeah my wife uses a naos 3200 she really likes the uh the
ergonomics yeah it's good most okay
here we go so two two quick questions here um won't the h100 I magnet
interfere with the motherboard or any hardware no Universal scripts asked what
is your opinion on sh sorry that's the
baby what is your opinion on Windows 8 strictly as a non-touchscreen OS and
actually slick spent more time with Windows 8 than I have so far so take it
away uh I really like the feel of it
like when you search for programs and stuff it flows really well it it seems
to it feels very natural everything flows as you I miss men I miss Arrow
glass I actually don't um for a little while I did but I don't actually think
it's that big of a deal because I I think the reason they took it out and
this is just purely speculation I think the reason they took it out probably has nothing to do with it not being better
like I think it's way better no it's cuz it's all generalized so the tablets and
phones would have a problem with it um and you can feel that when you use it
though that's that's the pet peeve I have about it you can tell when you do
certain things that this was designed for a tablet this was designed for a
phone this was designed for a touchcreen so there's usually at least one more
step to everything and it doesn't sound like a lot but when you go to shut your
computer down and like I'm moving from class to class I want to shut down
really quickly um when there's one extra step it's just tedious and annoying and
like as you riddle me this why do you need to shut down because it wakes and
sleeps so fast but if you ever do need to shut down like for whatever reason if
if you wake and sleep it's the same thing I've had some problems closing my
tablet uh my laptop and moving from class to class but that's more to do
with the fact that I had a pre-release version of Windows 8 that I don't think
had full functionality yet so that's probably it but back then I was constantly shutting down and going from
classic class but no matter what you do there's usually one more step or say if
you want to open another notepad so if you already have a notepad open uh Press
Start type notepad press enter it will just bring the notepad that you already
have open forward on the screen instead of actually opening a new notepad like
it did in all previous versions of Windows so instead you have to either go
down and middle click on it with your mouse wheel or right click and create a
new instance which is just I liked the
old way I don't know I'm not a huge fan of it as a non-touchscreen desktop OS
but yeah but you'll stubbornly use it I will stubbornly use it I will give it
time I'm excited for service pack one right I mean there's a couple little
things that I'm kind of looking at going well if they just fix this then it would
be a billion times better like the search uh search right now you click
search and then or you you click the start menu and then you type in something and if you don't have the
right type of thing that you're searching for selected it won't find anything so if you're looking for a
setting like device manager um or whatever you have to go under settings
and it's default is apps so it it's just annoying you should just be able to type
it and press enter but you have to type it and click on the thing and then yeah
yeah so on the other hand surface r is
amazing Surface RT is amazing there is other really cool things about Windows 8 too um file transfers are awesome I know
they're amazingly awesome remember when we were trying to do those benchmarks
with the ad Data Drive on the Windows 7 machine and it was like just completely
derping out I tried it on Windows 8 machine it's like so easy I get a useful
readable Benchmark I mean I'm using I'm using Windows 8 for any kind of file
transfer any kind of like storage benchmarks from now on that's that's
just it yeah I know absolutely great shows you a perfect graphical map of How
It's transferring they're pausable which is amazing I absolutely love that I use
that constantly yeah um all of that is just great the new task manager is
awesome I love task manager and it even works on like the RT tablets and stuff
which is kind of cool it's great like there is really really good things about
it but there's also things that I'm not a huge fan of and they could fix that in
F their service packs or whatever so we'll see how it goes okay so let's move
into one of our discussion topics um I don't know if you guys have heard about
this already or if you haven't heard about this already but if you haven't
then motherboards.org the channel just
go motherboards org you know the one with uh with
El is no longer the motherboards.org Channel with elri so if you guys haven't
seen this already check this out in the last couple days here we'll go on uh
social blade yeah this will probably be
interesting yeah this will this will probably be interesting so El left
motherboards.org published a video on his other Channel Tech tomorrow or
tomorrow Tech I think it's Tech tomorrow I think it might be tomorrow Tech okay
it's one of the two um telling his subscribers to unsubscribe because his
channel had been taken from him so in
the last couple days uh yeah helps if I type the thing
right in the last couple days he has shed thousands of
subscribers so my hard there we go okay I got this i got
this so check that out guys in the the past couple days he has lost about
13,000 subscribers from the motherboards org Channel which basically is um I mean
what are what are they even what are they even going to do with it like realistically think about this guys what
if I was like fired from NC then I don't
know slick would you do lus Tech tips uh
probably not okay so there hold on okay couple things guys so there's a lot of
there's a lot of people in the twitch chat and I'm here I'm going to let you
guys I'm going to let you twitch chat guys talk for a little bit here there's a lot of people in the twitch chat that
are um that are saying you know oh well you know blah blah blah he wasn't he
wasn't that great anyway blah blah blah it's not the it's not really the point
the point is it's very difficult to recast someone who is sort of the the
face and I'm not saying who was right and who was wrong because I have no idea
but I mean would you watch uh for example actually okay what what other
channels do you even follow okay time to live Customs yeah would you watch it
without tiny Tom Logan no um the only
other guy I really watch is Tiny Tom Logan and the only reason why I watch
him is if he goes so into depth with things so that I can't actually just get
this from reading a little blurb um and without him that Channel's dead if he
lost if he left for some reason it's his thing so he can't really be fired but if
he left for some reason I would see no reason to watch any more videos uh the
whole thing is branded on a person like
uh what was that TV show where the guy got fired because he smoked too much cck
what oh uh Charlie Sheen yeah when he left like does anyone actually watch
that show anymore I know right ashon cutcher yeah as far as I've heard it
just no one cares and like ashon cooker Kutcher is apparently a good actor but
like no one cares the whole idea of the show is gone right I don't know okay so
that was something that we said we were going to talk about I want to talk about another thing so
everyone knows what this is and this of course looks like the same thing which
is of course a reason that uh Apple should get a lot of money
um so it's official the Galaxy S3 is the
top selling smartphone ever or something like that right yeah
okay what's that mean I don't know here's my okay here's
my here's my problem and I'm not I'm not an apple Fanboy at all but here here's
here's the thing S3 they spend on the
hardware that much is that much is clear so they design this phone maybe they
take a lower margin on it at the beginning and they go okay we're going
to put like a huge screen in it and we're going to like um put like a super
fast processor in it or whatever else but
I would you would you argue that the build quality is better than an iPhone 4
or an iPhone 5 uh not necessarily they're both really
high build quality phones it's made of plastic so what do you mean so what
what's your favorite what's your favorite backing on Samsung monitors brush aluminum or fake fake brush
aluminum okay but we're not talking about that we're talking we're talking
about a phone it's really durable I've dropped it a couple times already can
you tell probably if I look closely enough I
don't think so wow actually okay okay okay fine it's actually really like
there's differences between plastic you know that it's good plastic forget phone
then let's let's move let's let's look at like notebooks then okay notebooks
Apple spends on the build quality of their notebooks this is true un
questionable I mean I had an HP Elite Book for a while there that I was just
kind of tinkering around with I was going wow this is built really well for
a PC and then I kind of looked at it I went yeah but it's priced like a Mac so
I would make I guess I would make the argument that even if you're not getting
sort of the the hardware spe or even if you're not getting whatever else I think there's an inherent value to build
quality yes but this has build
quality I I this is a I've dropped it quite few times cement a couple times
not proud of that but it has what about the fact that Apple's phone is so much faster
now uh I have never had a single problem
with speed with this phone I know but I've never had a single problem with
speed for my iPhone 4 so does it
matter I can play a game and watch a video at the same time and neither of
them lag I think that's good enough that's good enough for so basically
phones are as fast okay there you go slick Tech tip of the day no I disagree
SLI phones are as fast as they ever need to be I'm saying it's not slow I'm not
saying it's as fast as it needs to be no one will ever need more than 512 kiloby
this phone has LTE okay are you running LTE
no okay okay fine let me put it this way okay let's
move on to tablets then okay okay tablets I would argue that I iPad
absolutely smokes everything else yeah
um I do like the okay surface I like
yeah I was just going to say I do really like the service although let's go back to Android then okay I I'm not I'm not
willing to fight for Android in the tablet tablet Market they just don't
have it right now in I I will I will stand behind them with phones I like
their phones I don't like the usability experience of an iPhone okay um I would
argue that it's excellent but but not for me have you ever used one yes I have
did you ever actually use one day to day I have iPhone 3G my mom has it right now
she uses it as an iPod I don't like it there's it's it's
you have to sign into the App Store every single freaking time I'm signing into my phone I just want to use my
phone the only argument I've heard that that is actually viable is so that your
kid can't go on their phone and buy a million different things there's
parental controls in here you can turn on printer controls and make it so you
just can't buy things okay I it's EXC
let's go back to the battle I can win then let's go back to tablet so I iPad 4
there's a lot of sort of there's a lot of there's people are talking a lot of
smack about how iPad 4 is just an iPad 3
with a faster processor yeah
um but it doesn't cost more yeah and and it's not like that's any different from
what they've usually done they does it ever cost more I thought they always releas in at the same price no it always
comes in at the same price point the one thing we saw last time though was they kept the iPad 2 around but at a lower
price point as of like a so so with iPad
Mini there's like a good better best kind of placement strategy here so with
a6x which I think is the chip in the iPad 4 which they're not calling iPad 4
it's the new iPad again like six or
seven months after the last new iPad there's B they're basically two
generations ahead of anything else in terms of performance why uh they're they're ARM
processors uh I was talking to a friend at school Theo if you're out there hello
um I don't know if this is true this is something I heard from a friend at school so don't quote me but he's pretty
credible so I think so and he was saying that apple is they haven't made an
official statement or anything but they're seriously considering going with ARM processors for everything really
ditching Intel and I think that might give Intel
a little bit of a wakeup call for the tablet Market I certainly hope so yeah
because surface is amazing and I can't
really fight for any Android tablets although I'd like to but I just can't
but again the same thing holding back surface is holding back Android tablets
in a big way and it's Tegra 3 I Tegra 3
was good when it came out it was good but even then it wasn't as fast as iPad
2 y iPad 3 was faster iPad 4 is faster
again it's a two generational Gap and it already wasn't that competitive
so why is it that NVIDIA can't afford to
make a faster chip or Samsung can't afford to I mean even Galaxy Note 10.1
has a faster chip in it than a or three but using it did not feel like anything
like using an iPad um I think NVIDIA is more going for
the value market right now um I know
it's kind of weird because NVIDIA usually goes big or goes home but um but
they Trump at the performance of tiger from the rooftops yeah I know um and
they really need to get their game up because they are getting destroyed by ARM and so does Intel Intel needs to
wake up and actually care about tablets and start destroying ARM because Intel
has the power to do it NVIDIA is awesome but I think they're still even though
they say they're kind of focusing on tablets I think they're still focusing on the desktop realm um trying to make
things cheaper that an Enterprise an Enterprise and all that kind of stuff
and I think that's what Intel is doing too they care more about desktops they care more about servers um here's the
thing that kills me about what Intel's been doing lately and it comes down to die
size Intel chips now that okay okay you
look at sort of think about this so the pricing of AMD CPUs versus Intel CPUs
AMD has a four module pile driver chip
the 8350 that has an enormous die like
we're talking a die that is at least I I
can't remember the exact measurements but it's more than double the size of an
Intel 3770k huge die size compared to that so when it comes to how much a CPU
costs or how much any chip costs like this chip you know this chip doesn't
matter what chip it comes down to the manufacturing process so the R&D that
went into it and then it comes down to the die size because the die size is the
odds that a defect will appear on that part of the wafer so the wafer is about
this big and then you can put as many chips as you can and the bigger the die
size any wafer is going to have defects especially around the outsides the
bigger the die size the bigger the chance there's a significant defect on
it it can't be used so Intel if you watch they've been
shrinking their manufacturing process they haven't been giving
us any kind of uh they they've been shrinking the die size that's dedicated
to the actual CPU for the last few Generations so what could they do if
they were actually paying attention if AMD was actually giving them a run for their money and this ties back into my
point about Apple as well uh they could use their real estate more and just blow
them out of the water isn't it um 2011 didn't they like burn off to the cores
uh yeah yeah 2011 well the the server chips are up to eight cores yeah yeah
and then the extreme Edition which is supposed to be the even the new extreme
Edition 3970x which is supposed to be like 50 watt TDP So in theory they
didn't even care about TDP but all we got out of it was a couple hundred more
mehz and they did not leave in the other two cores and I'm I mean Ivy Sandy
Bridge e Ivy Bridge e Ivy Bridge e which is coming I think it's supposed to be up
to 12 course but whenever it comes it'll
come and that'll be that I think um I used to be a pretty big fan of AMD back
with their Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 X2 yeah you're a fair weather friend as B
basically what you're trying to say but go ahead yeah um but AMD just hasn't been
competing properly lately Intel's just been absolutely destroying and because
AMD isn't actually giving Intel a run for their money um Intel doesn't have to
care I they can just keep on making things cheaper and cheaper so that their
profit margins are higher and just they just don't have to Care on the other
hand what do they have to do because they're a publicly traded company
publicly traded companies are always evaluated bed Bas on growth they have to
make money yeah yeah so they have to make money they have to show growth if
they're not increasing profit margins or increasing revenues or doing both then
they're going to get destroyed so the PC
desktop PC market is pretty saturated and I've got my own opinions about why
that is I don't think it has anything to do with the desktop being dead as a platform I think it's just I mean how
old is your parents okay you're probably a bad example but your friends how old
are their parents computers oh really old my parents computer my my friend's
parents computers are really old five years probably around there XP machines
they're just they're all XP machines all my friends parents computers are XP machines or they're my friend's old
computers which are now running Windows 7 so it's hard to sell CPUs if you're
not buying people aren't buying computers but that doesn't mean they're not still using desktops so we can put
that aside forever the desktop is not dead but if you're Intel what choice do
you have now you have to increase your margins um or you have to try and find a
way to sell more stuff or you have to expand into new markets I mean I think
SSD is going to be a big deal yeah um you look at what's going on with ocz
right now you look at what's going on with anyone who's not a manufacturer
yeah and uh guys like Samsung guys like
Intel where they have Fabs they have the
technology the vertical guys those those are going to be the guys who win yeah um
where are we going with this they well I'm not actually entirely sure but like
Intel can make their own uh modules and
cherry pick them too so it's not really fair for all the guys that aren't manufacturing their own yeah that's true
until Samsung just trade pick their own stuff right okay so back to my back to
my Apple thing so here's my theory as to why Apple can
be two generations ahead of everyone else in terms of performance they spend on die size you look at the size of
something like an a6x compared to a Egra 3 it is huge it absolutely dwarfs tiger
3 it's not rocket science I mean a processor is how many transistors are in
it basically and then the advantage of a
smaller manufacturing process is basically the the whole point is being
able to stuff more transistors into that space because you reach a point of
diminishing returns when it gets this big the delay to get a signal from here
to here across the Chip And sort of all the traces in between becomes too much
so as long as you stay within a certain size and it's all good but if you look back at like older remember when CPUs
didn't have a heat spreader on them how big the cores were how big there so much
smaller now whereas apple is interesting because NVIDIA doesn't get to take money
from the manufacturing but neither does Apple they don't get to take money from
the screen they don't get to take money from the app store they don't get to
take money from the the button anything else Apple
gets to take margin on almost every aspect of this device and and apple can
make money on other things too like cables and cases and whatnot yes
accessories so what happens I I believe
the reason that they can be so far ahead is they can just spend on die size they
can go okay we don't care make the chip as big as you want whereas NVIDIA only
gets to sell a chip so they have to optimize you know like think about the
margins you need if you're a chip maker so that that tagra device that you have
um I don't have any handy right now but that Tegra device you have NVIDIA only
got to take a profit on that one little thing so if they were to take like
what's Apple's gross margins 40 45% or something like that it's around that so
if Apple gets to take 45 % on a phone
then NVIDIA if NVIDIA only gets to take 45% on a phone that means Apple's taking
a couple hundred dollars or on a chip rather for NVIDIA and NVIDIA if that
chip has to be part of a phone that costs $500 and they're getting 45% of
whatever that is they're only getting to take a few bucks so they have to have much higher profit margins
so that's my theory I don't think anyone can catch up unless it's maybe Samsung I
think am could catch up Intel could catch up full solution providers yeah I
I wish I don't know I hope I hope Tegra
doesn't die I like kind of like NVIDIA and I like where they're going with it
they're trying really hard they're pushing for the gaming side of it and stuff but it's just not there well
Wayne's going to be significantly faster than the current generation product I
mean the uh the road map that I saw at
the last uh NVIDIA partner conference basically had performance going like
this I think they were saying by 2014 or 2015 we were going to have Core i5 level
performance in a tgra product um I mean they're very much in
the game and as a Solutions provider I think they'll they'll always be a big
winner yeah I mean AMD is finally turning things on with uh hey have you
seen the new AMD drivers I actually have not never settled drivers are adding 10
to 15% across the board on 7,000 series cards in AAA titles their their cards
haven't really been a problem though no their graphics cards have been really
good it's other areas that they've been failing in lately right okay let's do
some Twitter Q&A for a while guys let's see if we got some good questions on the
twitters I'm going to go ahead and switch to
my Twitter window here so you guys can actually see what's going
on all right back up to the top and we have 321 new interactions
yay lus and Slick 7950 versus 660 Ti and
Slick before you answer that question I would like you to remember that 7950 now
has 10 to 15 better 10 to 15% better performance across the board compared to
when you last benchmarked them right that probably means that in raw
performance the 7950 will win um okay I
like over if you get a 660 Ti power Edition no not anymore they revised it
Andia had them pull it back seriously yeah that's pretty so now 7950 smoke 660
Ti and overclocking yeah that's that's lame I I've really really really I
called them out at packs I really really really don't like what NVIDIA is doing
with their overvolting stuff and when I asked them um I actually got one of my
buddies to ask him he was on here actually Harrison I got him to ask him
um when he when Harrison asked them they said specifically oh we're not doing
anything we're not do anything that's up to the board Partners but if the board
Partners do anything about it like what MSI did I'm guessing like NVIDIA pulls
all warranty yep so they can't afford that that's where NVIDIA used to stand
behind them but now they don't stand behind them so they are doing something about okay the flip side of that is if I
manufacture this CPU Cooler and I say
you're not allowed to run the pump at 14 volts or 15 volts or 20 volts or
wherever the limit is but don't I have the right to say no warranty yes and
that's true but NVIDIA has always covered this and now they have pulled it
back that's to taking away an advantage of your product um if you if you run a
company for 20 years I'm just pulling random numbers um 20 years and you've
always had one big strong thing that everyone really likes you for and then
you take it away you can't expect people to just be like oh yeah that totally
makes sense people are going to be upset it's annoying um and like putting people
in weird situations like MSI where they have to backpedal from their overvolting
where that was so cool the 660 Ti power Edition was epic I love that card and
now so basically it's a business decision at the end of the day it comes
back to that you know what it comes back to that whole like die size and margins
and shrinking business because Graphics as as I mean everyone wants to talk
about PC gaming isn't dying PC gaming is not dying League of Legends most played
game in history right here's the problem though is that League of Legends does
not help sell graphics cards that's true that is true high-end PC gaming has been
a very sad thing for a very long time um
Crisis 3 I'm hoping starts to turn this around they I've heard that it will I've
heard that it will uh Yuri whatever his name is has basically said you know what
screw your graphics card and your memory and your CPU I'm going to crush it all
so great I think that's great for PC gaming um Star Citizen using cry engine
3 y looks really exciting space Sim game so I'm hoping it all turns around but
when when when guys pitch those sort of PC gaming as growing numbers they're
talking wow they're talking Leal Legends uh Wow's going down actually okay
whatever they're talking about mainstream stuff pegle these are
technically PC games these are technically PC Gamers but they're not
buying GTX 680s No so at the end of the day NVIDIA again is a public company
what do they have to do they have to reduce their rmas they have to find
other ways to tighten up their business they have to take smaller dieses 680 is
a smaller die size than I think at least
three or four generations back of high-end cards one thing too though like
uh NVIDIA's always had there it's in the game campaign but they used to be way
more aggressive about it and stuff like Borderlands where they made it kind of
cheesy where it's just it detects what kind of graphics card you have and literally takes things out of the game
if you have an ATI card have you seen that yeah I showed you that okay um it's
pretty brutal like they'll take out water pipes that shoot water out ATI
cards can create water I'm sure that's not a big deal um but they just removed
it from the game like if they changed their push with that and made it so that
NVIDIA sponsored games were just intense and had awesome Graphics hardware and
really really really good resolutions and just
conses and by the sound of things Wii U isn't going to turn it all around no not
exactly but like there is games coming out look at Kickstarter there's so many
games coming out that are just PC right so do it for the games that are just PC
why would NVIDIA sponsor a game that's coming out on Kickstarter is kind of the best thing to happen to the PC gaming
industry like ever it's actually been kind of amazing cuz the whole problem
with PC gaming and you guys can argue about it till you're bleue in the face the problem with PC gaming has been
piracy because at the end of the day it's the most pirated platform so if
you're going to produce a game for one platform it's not going to be PC period
um on the other hand Kickstarter takes all the risk away from the developer
although I would argue that the well yeah because they get the money up front
they know at least their cost is covered so if anyone buys the game then it will
be profitable it's it's already profitable in a lot of situations because they're selling the game in a
lot of in almost every single every single Kickstarter situation um you're
buying it or if you're going below the buying price which most people don't
don't tell my wife I I don't if you can hear us but I'm actually thinking about
buying the $250 Star Citizen package oh my goodness it comes no it comes with
the baller ship for if you do one of my friends for
my birthday bought me the star citizen package not not the two I think it's the
one that just gets you the game just the game okay and I I get a ship but it's
not like the most amazing thing um so basically I get to blow you up right
when the game comes out in yeah I don't
think I get Alpha either I get I think I get ba oh you don't get Alpha I don't
think so so basically by by the time you get beta I'll be an expert and my ship
will be Ownage and H I wonder if you get to carry that onward anyways um yeah I
got to carry it on I actually I don't know yeah I don't know a lot of them don't let you um so anyway sorry you
were saying kickstarters include the game I'm trying to remember where I was
going with that yeah so a lot of their sales are already done right that's the
thing and they have to calculate calculate that in like yes this budget
gets to go towards the development of the game but that budget also has to go
towards paying everyone because a huge portion most of their
sales are done before the game is released right which is kind of a really
interesting platform kind of scary really scary for a lot of people but no
they're also hitting like 300% of their margins in a lot of situations project
eternity was insane project attorney wanted like I don't remember the numbers
I'm sorry but I think they wanted like $800,000 and they ended up getting
almost 4 million wow okay uh okay here's
the risk then because okay so your point that most of the sales are probably
launches would counter that and I would say many customers will be very UNC
unless it's an extremely reputable developer about giving money to a
developer basic there's no way to get Kickstarter money back no um if if it
doesn't hit their anyways yeah keep going well no if the project goes ahead
they say thank you for the money it's a Kickstarter it's it's a it's a it's a
seed fund you don't get it back if the project sucks or the game isn't very
good so you're paying 40 bucks for the game that's that's the cost of a game on
Steam or whatever discounted game um what if it turns into a Duke Nukem
Forever type of fiasco where 13 years later you paid $40 for this game did
speaking did you see the Google image of the guy who had his original pre-order
yeah anyway from it was like all decrepit but that's the situation that
we could potentially be creating so I think lots of people will hold out until
the game's done yeah and they can do that one thing you're doing is like uh
if any you guys follow the project attorne one Obsidian made some of the
most iconic games that have ever been rele relas but lately haven't been doing
that amazing uh they have publicly blamed this previously on the people
that have been funding them they pushed the project dates they pushed the project dates then the game is released
uncomplete Brink think about Brink for a second Brink was like one of the biggest
disappointments of a game that I've ever released I was so excited for brink and
then it was so terrible because it was so obviously unfinished um it was not
polished the single player was multiplayer with Bots that was literally
like you click on single player and you might like it's the exact same map
that's in multiplayer you do the exact same thing except there's bots on your
team and bots on the other team like that's not a single player there's
random cinematics as you're running through it's like oh cinematic randomly like what I don't care this means
nothing it was just horribly unpolished and uncomplete and if you get your
budget from fans and you can set it whatever date you want is well you have
to set it yeah within reason within reason because you have to set a date and then
conf your fans have to accept that date when they're paying for it so they have
to know it has to be reasonable but you can have these allowances that you've
never really had before you can develop things that you weren't able to before because people ask for it okay let's go
back and do let's do some quick Twitter questions so coach SLO says he likes the
show format of the show tonight glad to hear it you know what viewership is
actually better than it's been since I think the first show that I did so
people were either tuning in because they're super excited to meet the legendary slick himself without a bag on
his head he maybe I'll wear the bag for a bit so people were either super
excited about that or uh or or they
really are enjoying okay I can't read the screen but um okay I'm enjoying the
format of the show something something are the main things I should look for
what are the main things to look for for a monitor for gaming and video editing
well those are two completely different things you want a gaming monitor you want a 120 HZ panel you want video
editing you need an IPS panel or PLS panel so opposite
you got to figure out which one's more important to you is my secondary laptop
fast enough to run crisis 2 no maybe
slick wants food slick already ate yeah what did you have tonight slick I had a
I don't know what they're called I had a Whopper and I had their fish burger
thing cuz on Fridays Burger King has $2 fish Burgers never had one before it
honestly wasn't that bad y Burger King
by the way Burger King is a proud sponsor of the lion tips live stream
tonight they fed me although I had to pay for it oh well I'm sort of
sponsorship yeah I guess you have
to uh okay so question from dwn oh no I
was eating that oh do you want some okay my wife's stealing my pomegranate um so
T Egra 3 isn't cutting it what are your thoughts on qualcom Snapdragon S4
quadcore chips I mean that's the thing is these mobile chips are getting so
much faster so quickly that it's really exciting but my whole argument was just
that Apple will always be able to be ahead of the curve because bcom only
gets to take money for the chip just the same way NVIDIA only gets to take money
for the chip or anyone else even armed to a lesser extent only gets to take
money for the chip and apple gets to take money for the entire
solution AMD will be up for sale next year most probably you know what we
can't speculate on that no we're not speculating on that you looked like you're about to say something no I
wasn't I was just like well because if they do any glad to hear you guys like
the format of the show uh thoughts on the Black Widow ultimate 2013
um if they have their new uh what is it called synopsis drivers synapse synapse
drivers I am not a fan if they have those so synapse drivers basically for
you guys who don't know Razer synapse software allows you to save like let's
say this was a you know what let's say this was a
mouse let's say this is a mouse um so it allows you to save to the
cloud all the DPI settings all the macro settings all the settings that you would
have had for this mouse did you know you can even save the adjustable weight
settings in the bottom of the mouse uh what sorry that makes no sense
but you save it in the cloud so if you take that Mouse and plug it into any
computer log into synapse it will know all of your settings no big deal and it
can even save game per game profiles Y
which is very cool as well why don't Gamers like this because if you lose
your internet connection for any reason you lose all of your settings because
they save it in the cloud if they had it so like uh okay I really don't like
origin but this is actually something to do well they have cloud storage for save
save files so Battlefield 3 if I don't have my Battlefield 3 save file that's
fine I can play the game but if and this is what irks me about steam too are they
implementing that yet I believe so every game should just have Cloud save files
it's ridiculous that they don't anyway go ahead um I don't I know they do for
settings I don't know if they do for sa I don't think they do I don't think so
either because there so many different developers like it might be supported on valve games but that would be amazing
well most valve games don't have single player except for Half Life anyways uh
when are we getting episode three okay go ahead I really want to
know but yeah um so like with origin's
thing if you are activated the internet it'll take that opportunity and download
the save file for you it'll ask you first it's like do you want to sync up
blah blah blah blah blah if you say yes downloads it that's awesome if you have
it in you're offline that's awesome that doesn't really matter with razer's new
setup the second you lose internet connection you lose all of your settings
so all a sudden you have like a $10 Mouse instead of this beast mode level
of expensive mouse that you bought and it just I don't know so you're saying
that's a problem that's yes it's not
okay should computers be switched off or left on uh put it in
sleep um Apple has iTunes Android has Google Play most of the
okay oh that's an interesting take on us so we have a lot of international
viewers on our live streams here's a complaint that a lot of the features
built for Android are exclusive to the US I mean Google Maps isn't um I'd love
for you guys to sort of pitch in on Twitter or the actually you know what
I'm GNA give this one to the twitch chat guys he probably means North America
I've never had a SE North America okay yeah because guys we're in Canada
um so have you guys run into any issues
with Google applications not working
outside of North America and this is only for the nonn North American
viewers so we're going to the twitch chat there we go we're going to cover up
slick for a change no one wants to see him anyway Android is insanely popular in
like India goog
places fine W it's going really fast
it's hard to read maybe we should turn on slow mode okay apparently New Zealand
is fine china apparently recently banned some of the uh well that's China that
doesn't count China doesn't count it's like a six of the population but that's
China Banning it that's not it just straight up not working Puerto Rico is
apparently fine Google Maps was apparently broken in the UK but then Sur
only half works there too
okay Australia stupid Maps yeah okay but
then again like Apple's maps are stupid everywhere as far as I can tell yeah
Dominican Republic apparently fine Singapore Malia's fine
okay Mexico doesn't have Google Music so the only real complaint so far seems to
be about like Google Music more than anything else
so okay what else we got here on Twitter we
just a tore apart in Athlon 64 it's cool that's very sad because that was like
the last thing they made that was
awesome yeah they've been talking about this for a while actually deemphasizing
desktop and and they probably should because they're just losing I wonder
what's going to happen with Intel though because wouldn't that make them a monopoly um yeah potentially on the
other hand are they a monopoly if ARM continues along the path that they're
going right that's a good point yeah because they'll be developing for GU
yeah and if if Windows RT gets the kind of support that I personally hope it
gets then there will be real legitimate
desktop applications that'll run on ARM yep Y and Windows I mean my hope my
personal Hope just to see more competition is that by the time we see
Windows 9 Windows 10 it's actually a unified skew if there was a way to do it
if there's a way to do it or it's like it's a single image and then it either
installs an ARM version or it installs an x86 version and and honestly soon
enough it'll be fast enough and I don't think it'll matter soon enough it'll be
fast enough and applications will continue to get more threaded so ARM can
just throw more cores at the problem which they're very good at Y and to the
user it should be completely transparent where you just download something I
think much the same way that you still see like iTunes you still have x86 x64
versions ARM version done I I'm I'd be
very excited I'd be very excited to see something like
that uh Windows 8 Black Friday or Cyber Monday sales very unlikely it's already
really cheap what's your take on Disney buying Star Wars this this is a
fantastic topic for discussion because I
think it's fantastic F you know what I'm going to let slick give you guys his
opinion I actually don't care about his opinion I'll be back in a
moment uh I'm surprised you worded it like that because I kind of
agree well give your opinion about how you agree with me because that's a
pretty safe opinion to have because I'm pretty clever um look what they did with the
Marvel heroes Disney owns Marvel uh I've
literally never heard of a single person ever complain about Avengers I've never
heard of a single person ever never complain about Iron Man the only one of
the new superhero movies that I've actually heard anyone complain about is
Thor but then they have to follow a certain storyline and I think for
following that storyline they actually did a really good job with that movie if
they stay true to Star Wars if they stay true to the older Star Wars movies they
will do fine in my opinion and if they
go like way into the future if they don't try and just go like hug the
storyline if they jump way in the future and make it actually make sense I think
they'll do a really good job Disney's a really good company they make really
really good movies I think everything will be just completely fine I'm sure
they'll spend the money to cast it right they seem to spend the money to cast everything right Disney's huge um I
don't think there'll be a casting problem I don't think there'll be a budget
problem yeah I think it'll be great hopefully if there's anything that
Mickey Mouse has it's plenty of money yeah Mickey Mouse has a ton of freaking
money um what was I going to say I kind of
hope that they follow one of the story lines from the book it would be cool to
like mace Wu or one of the epics in there would be
really cool but then if they keep with the kind of style that they have going
right now with the people that they have going right now just in the future that would also be great I personally think
that the whole the whole thing needs to
be just kind of killed okay this this I meant to bring this onto the stream I I
actually meant to talk about the whole Disney Star Wars thing even though it wasn't on our agenda today here's my
take on it and this is going to be really short whatever he talked about
you don't even need to think about that anymore because this is it could it be
any worse than this what could anything Disney does be
any worse than this q e
d okay next
topic the reason why NVIDIA isn't working too hard on their ERS they're
working on Super Micro okay fair enough probably who knows uh new next for I'm
not much of a phone guy have you heard much about it yeah I've heard really
good things it's by LG as I'm hoping
this is all right you know what's really funny is the way that the meaning of LG
is changed their entire company is called
LG It's My Life's good I think you mean lucky gold star
Lucky Gold Star yeah that's what they used to be called yeah yeah not little
girl um yeah
just just putting it out there everything about about LG is
great okay um yeah I've heard really
good things I had a Nexus before I had the Nexus S absolutely love that phone
uh the thing that I really like about Nexus phones and like I know I have an S3 right now but I'm going to talk up
the Nexus a lot more than I'd talk up in S3 is Nexus phones are very Google
branded even though it's running Android Nexus phones are way more Google branded
it says Google on the back if you notice S3 is just can't see that that well but
they just say Samsung all the Nexus phones say Google so Google really cares
about the software on there and every single time that a new OS would come out
with my Nexus S I would get it the next day right my uh Nexus S was running
Jelly Bean um then when that died and I went to go this get this one the reason
why I was able to get one of these was because I argued saying that with my
service plan I should get a jelly bean
device instead of the um I don't
remember they wanted to give you an S2 I think an S2 which was running an older
OS so I argued that competent product
would have the same or better OS than M comparable comparable product would have
the same or better device's really smart that's why that's why that's why we work
together but just he's never done this thing before don't worry guys no no so
yeah um Nexus phones are great they have great support it's going to be
ridiculously fast okay what about Samsung's value added
applications they're good you use Death Note today yeah but I could also use
Evernote okay I mean honestly I'm just playing Devil's Advocate right now
because I have the same belief I mean you know what I think of how my Galaxy
Vibrant still is running uh gingerbread
yeah whereas a Nexus branded phone released around the same time would have
the latest OS every single time latest OS just way better support I do have to
sorry keep going no um okay my Galaxy Tab 10.1 got ice cream sandwich like a
month and a half ago officially yes I know I could root the device yes I know
I could upgrade it unofficial you know what the camera didn't work with the uh
with the unofficial upgrade on the tab 10. one why should I have a half
functional device I've got a buddy at school that's crazy into messing around
with his phones hacking his phones doing all that kind of stuff and he always finds one little thing that doesn't work
everything on nexuses will always work I never had a single problem with that
phone that phone is amazing um I was going to say something but I don't
remember oh well okay we can do more
Twitter okay I heard there something something ARM being
hipsters next to four um oh right we
have very exciting news you guys now that we've got a pretty full uh full
live stream I want to let you guys know so yours truly the professional unboxer
will be attending CES this year and I
will be accompanied by none other than
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whichever you prefer we are going to be trying to do and guys bear with us here
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to attempt okay here CES the biggest
problem with CES coverage is that it's always lame it's incomplete no matter
who it is minor publication major
publication they skip 70% of the show
and it gets uploaded like a week
later what this dynamic duo team
potentially with diesel well we're not sure yet I haven't talked to him about
it actually but yeah potentially with
diesel is we're going to attempt to bring you the entire show which is going
to mean at least 25 to 30 videos covering 3 to five booths each over the
span of the sort of 3 to four days of this I can't remember it's like three or
four days that it's running and we are going to try to give
you guys nightly uploads of everything that we shot that day so it's going to
almost kill us it may kill us just a little bit just a little bit but if you
go to the lonus tech tips website around the time of CES mark this in your
calendar guys mark this in your calendar go there we're going to have little
written articles to go with every video telling you what's what's in the video what's up
what's going on and it is going to be the awesomest thing ever we're going to
be sponsored by Corsair so Corsair is sending us down there so you're going to
see like a powered by Corsair watermark in the corner and uh and I mean don't
worry we're going to still cover everything not Corsair there are competitors and all that but uh guys I
want you you know what I rarely ask you to do this but I want you to if you're
watching on YouTube I want you to like thumbs up the video and if you're you're
I don't know watching on Twitch can you like Facebook share a twitch stream or
like yeah I don't know tell someone about it there forget all this new
fangled hoo-ha terminology just tell someone about this because it's exciting
so thank you for reminding me of that slick what else we got here I don't okay
I'm not going to look at your password I really care okay
um oh game releases coming up in Q4 okay
slick more of the game so I'm going to see if there's some interesting tweets and he can talk about that I am ridicul
okay for some people this is out already for PC I'm ridiculously excited for
Assassin's Creed 3 that is not out yet on PC I was deceived by the the
Assassin's Creed 3 trailer I saw it on Zero Punctuation it
had a song on it that was like I'm coming home I'm coming home tell the
world I'm coming home I downloaded it and it was a
rap so I am already not going to buy Assassin's Creed three just for that
were you going to at all I don't I don't think you own any of the other games no
exactly so well point is not valid I was
really disappointed it turned out to be
Diddy I have no idea what no it was one of those deceptive songs it was like um
it was like that Eminem song where yeah where they mix in a really old school
song and then their yes so it was like that where I was just
like what the just go down oral talk about your
little games yeah Assassin's Creed 3 is going to be epic I've been staying away
from spoilers as much as I possibly can many of you have probably already played
it if you have consoles but I'm not a huge console fan I wait for things on PC
um what else is there coming Black Ops 2 is going to be pretty epic I'm thinking
of one but I can't remember it Black Ops 2 is going to be epic
zombies okay Nazi zombies is fun Nazi zombies is fun I'm not actually a huge
Cod fan so I don't know I'm there's
another one max pay is coming oh wait another one not Max pay no
uh the guy with the barcode on the back of his head I can't remember the name of
that game I'm pulling a complete blank yes Hitman Absolution I believe yeah
yeah there's quite a few other ones but I just can't remember top of my head
right now but yeah there's a new expansion for Battlefield 3 can't so if
you bought premium you get it for no additional money right I was going to
say free but yeah but premium I can't even play right now punkbuster won't
properly install on my system really yeah I've been trying to fix the H the
the 800d yeah it's really annoying and
like I looked on the forums there's a whole bunch of people the same problem as me they just like yeah just play on
like non-secure servers and I'm like
okay I tried all the fixes none of them seem to work um exactly cuz like I'm
like this so I can't play any games I can't W and D so
like I want to play P vers
zombies again I don't Diablo 3 oh that's
true I played it for a bit but I'm just so done with that game anyways um so I
was like I'll play Battlefield 3 and sit in the base and sit in that little air
defensive turret and just shoot down flying things all day so that basically
just makes you just a total jackass pretty much but that's all I could do so
I like whatever I'll just do that but I couldn't even play for more than two minutes per server so it was completely
useless at least you had the the excuse of being like handicapped in order to
behave like that exactly right fine I'll
give it to you this time um okay storm gaming has a tweet my friend has the Mac
with the retina screen the screen has broken twice this brings me to one of
the topics that I wanted to discuss tonight and that is I tried to do this
on a live stream not that long ago and I kind of failed because it had been a
really long week and I I like brain farted but I'm going to try and take
another crack at this okay here's what I'm trying to figure out why can't I
have a 4K desktop display or laptop
realistically or laptop even yeah why can't I have that or like anything else
or anything else and someone really with a huge name that will back us up is
lonus torval yeah well no he didn't say it's he didn't say it was well no he
didn't say it was possible and it's just ridiculous okay okay so here here here
here think about it this way guys okay so 4K what are the
challenges for a long time it was pixel density yeah
okay how old is this device three years
now two and a half years okay iPhone 4 is this pixel this
pixel density is enough to build a 27in 4k monitor am I right right okay
so um that's not a problem anymore I'm sorry that's not a problem anymore
that's not a problem I mean you even look at iPad 3 replacement screens are like 80 bucks so times four why can't I
buy a $250 or you know more you know let's
let's say $350 $400 I don't care I just want one like 27 inch monitor why can't
I do that 30inch monitor you know um
people have proven I'm holding an S3 we've got iPhone 5es all over the place
even though they have like almost no improvement anyways people have proven
that people it's more than you can say I
don't um anyways uh people have proven
that they will spend money on devices even if they make no sense so what you
mean make no sense I would argue that something like a MacBook Retina makes a
lot of sense I that over any other notebook I was just taking a crack at iPhone 5 I
would buy a higher red screen why don't we have higher red screens that are
optional to buy people will buy it people cared so much of all the Rea
display and it's not even that impressive like it's awesome and it way
better than everything else I agree but it could be so much better could be
better okay okay so the argument there might be um bigger stuff costs more and
I would like to I would like to direct your attention to this when is the last
time you went to your local big box retailer and checked out the prices of
TVs how much do they cost nothing
compared to before people bought big TVs before so a 55 in TV you can get for as
little as I think around 600 700 800 bucks so if that costs $800 and yes the
pixel density is lower but I still don't think the pixel density of of you know a
30in version of that should be you know an engineering or manufact in Nightmare
so this is only $800 the density we need is like 80
bucks 90 bucks why isn't there something
in the middle that marries these two things it just doesn't seem that
complicated it really it shouldn't be that hard it just should not be that
hard I mean okay here couple things yields so it comes down to the same
thing we were talking about with die size for chips before you have to have a
yield of a panel so if you go okay like
they build they build LCDs in in large large large panels they cut them up
essentially like they cut them up okay so if you're going to manufacture rtina
displays you're going to manufacture a big old thing like this and you're going to go okay here's all the places with
defects that we can't use and you cut around them
essentially so okay if you build a bigger high density panel you're going
to lose some yep but then you build it into the price exactly you always build
that into price that's part of business and then the other thing is the demand
the demand for these high density panels is extremely high you look at something
like Nexus 10 um where what what is they what are they 1920 x 12 no is it 2560 I
think so I think it's 2560 by 1600 which is ridiculous and honestly tiger 3 is
not fast enough for that I'm I'm really excited for like a Nexus 10.2 or
something but um but okay okay so
there's demand but there's that just charge more for it tablets don't even
cost that much you could just take like the screen and charge you know quadruple
what you would have charged for that screen on the tablet and I mean if I'm Samsung if I'm LG if
I'm one of these guys that's actually manufacturing this stuff why can't
Samsung release a 4K desktop monitor why are we getting stuff like
this beautiful monitor by the way 1080p
why and like I remember watching a video
quite a while ago on YouTube of them like this was quite a while ago of them
showing off this 4K TV and it was oh oh
my goodness oh my goodness 4K technology they have one you can't buy it it's
super exclusive but they have one why can't we buy well we can Sony has a
25,000 I know but like it should be so much more available and not 25,000 and
that's the thing is there what's the manufacturing problem with with building
these large format displays with higher higher resolution I don't understand um
so that was that was another topic so yes lus me is totally in agreement with
lonus toor's the other guy you know the Linux guy he did something once for
technology no what I do is way more important than him um hey I'm unboxing
the h100i what are you doing with your life I'm not saying I'm as good as line
of stbl anyway um but where was I going
right so we should have higher resolution displays personally okay okay
yeah we'll be locked into DisplayPort I guess in order to make sure that cuz
HDMI is like oh yeah 4K support at 24
FPS yay yay um so yeah we'll have to use display
port so we need to make sure we have the interconnects that can work but come on
I mean even that's like DVI dual link DVI has been around for how long how
complicated is the chip on either end Double it yeah quadruple it 10x it does
it matter will you pay an extra $2 for a graphics card if you know it can drive a
4K or an 8K display right I mean display
port is even capable of the bandwidth that we need already so as is jumping
back to a topic we were talking about earlier with uh PC games not being hard enough to run I run my 480 and have no
problems with anything I Crush everything that comes in my way make me
want to upgrade my graphics card yeah I know a lot Crisis 3 Star Citizen and I
hope they do I hope so too but we don't know yet come on what's up with wow they
keep does not care they keep upgrading their engine they're like yay we had a
direct x l
yay just well tation this this brings
along another topic about blizzard just being terrible
lately well like you can't call come on Diablo I was it looked like it was 8
years old yeah yeah and then okay like Diablo I is like I just kind of a
failure of a release in my opinion like okay it's a good game but it's a
blizzard game it should be a ridiculously good Game it shouldn't be a
pretty good they only release like one game every three years exactly they
should have crushed torch light and I know right Tor was good torch light was
awesome I never played Torch Light 2 yet though is it good I've heard it's better I haven't played it either but I've
heard it's better and like they did not Crush torch light they didn't come close
to crushing torch light and they should have wow was amazing when it was
released and some people would argue that it's still good DirectX 11 now old
who cares it's old and all the expansions are just like okay we added
some content we added One race it's like well okay that's cool but your game is
really freaking old they just haven't and like Starcraft 2 the next expansion
they just push it back because they're like oh people realized that we did
nothing with it and said it was going to be released this year and we did nothing
we pulled a whole bunch of units out of the game we added a few and we're like good luck like the um what was the
original one the original Star c 1 expansion I can't really name brood War
brood war was huge brood War changed everything and it it changed the entire
balance totally different game and it was amazing and everyone loved it and it was great and it pushed eorts and it was
awesome and hard of the Swarm just isn't
League of Legends is dominating Esports right right now uh Counter Strike is
like surviving somehow um I love Counter-Strike but it's really old um
and like there's so many things uh Destiny a Starcraft player I know you
don't know don't worry um destiny posted something on Reddit that was really long
about everything that blizzard should be doing it just isn't blizzard reacted
slightly and said they were going to change a few of the things but they're just not and well they added like higher
levels of direct X like come on like people keep asking
me they're like oh I um you know I want to play uh you know I want I'm upgrading
my graphics card so I can have direct X1 and they'll have like they'll have
something good like they'll have like uh you know like an older direct X not
they'll have like a 7900 GTX or something and then they'll be upgrading
or like they'll have an 8800 GT or something like that and they'll be
upgrading to like a lowend direct X1 card I'm just like you know what DirectX
level is not that I mean look at games
like Witcher 2 dx9 it's a dx9 game it
looks better than almost anything else for the PC especially with their Uber
textures especially with their Uber textures and the and honestly I mean
okay I challenge you guys all the gamers watching this stream right now and we're
on Twitch TV so at least a handful of you better play video games uh even
though I don't but half of us play video games he plays video games um Riddle Me
Okay I I challenge you go find a game that has direct X 9 10 and 11 support
and do a blind taste test with yourself get someone to change them around on you
and see if you can even tell it's hard like play the game though you don't get
to like walk around like this and look at the textures on the floor you don't get to do that that's cheating yeah like
like like I said it's hard you'd have to do stuff like that to really notice the difference okay so that brought us ah
iPhones are made of more environmentally did you know that right now there is not
an efficient recycling technique for touch screens I actually did not know that but
efficient recycling technique the sweeten anyways um okay but for touch
screens there's no there's no environmentally safe disposal method for
them the problem why is the bonding layer in between the touch interface and
the panel where is it made of uh I don't remember but it means you can't separate
them anymore and uh apparently this is like a
huge problem and as more and more touch I mean well so many phones exist like so
many phones but now multiply that times
whatever for a tablet times whatever for a notebook times whatever for a desktop
monitor because everyone's doing it for Windows 8 uh all-in-one computers um
older older style touch screens it wasn't a problem pressure sensitive ones like for POS terminals but it's a really
I mean I'm not really going anywhere with this but it's just a really interesting thing to think about I mean
on the other hand when I was a kid Tetra packs were a big problem because there's
no way to recycle them whereas now every Tetra pack is recyclable because I'm
sure they'll come up with something some guy won some award for coming up with a
way I hope they come up with something but it's just something to think about right now guys so don't buy you know
more touch screens than you absolutely need if you don't absolutely need to
science will find a way on the other hand I do work at NCI so buy lots of new
technology gear um and
stuff okay don't like the S3 it's plasticky see H it is plasticky Storm
gaming is with me and I'm not a huge fan of that either I don't like the back I
wish it had a textured back like my old Nexus has it I'll admit Z oh hey I
wanted to ask you guys um how's the
audio levels tonight because I've had complaints in the past from people watching on mobile device mobile mobile
mobile devices or anything like that they're saying they couldn't turn the audio levels up enough so I hope it's uh
I hope it's good enough tonight let's check the uh the twitch chat um audio is Good crap good clear
and Cris perfect extremely good better okay awesome glad to hear it thank you
twitch for letting me know and uh we've got a correction El was was fired yes we
know I think we said he was gone I don't think we said he left I don't know I I
was saying he left but I was talking about tiny Tom Logan oh okay he might
have I don't know if I might have said the same thing or he heard the wrong thing or whatever are you wearing a Team
Liquid hoodie yes oh you're so
lame Esports isn't Sports and I know I'm
on Twitch TV right now saying that it's not going to make me popular but it's
not Sports you know what it comes it's it's but they they preface it with
something they know they're not like all the rest Sports at least they're not
poker which tries to call your a sport okay fine that's a lot worse they know
their Esports I don't know uh okay hold on I have to log into this so you can
talk more about how Esports is a sport I'm not I'm saying it's an ort it's its
own little category they don't try and say like oh we're Runners and eye
jumpers and football players they know their Esports they have their own
category I like that they're not like poker I hate poker poker's like oh yeah
it's a sport we sit around the table and look at each other that's fun
yeah but they look at each other really intently intently yeah no I know and
like and poker's difficult and you can make money yeah poker's difficult you
can make money it's a challenge more money you can make more money playing poker than you can doing almost any
other sport other than like you know NBA
uh well not that NHL players are making any money right now but but they should
differentiate themselves in some way because it is different so it's a mind
sport or it's a table they should just call themselves a table
sport like well magic tries to say come
on that's like calling Dungeons and Dragons a sport though it's a table game
poker is a game and Esports are games
but whoa that was actually impenetrable
go ahead so then it's a sport because they're all games how is that a sport
because they game football a game football so you just categorized all of
them you just beat yourself that's
impenetrable I'm covering you there's nothing you can do about it
I hate
you and apparently Christian thing oh no
Eclipse thinks you're the handsomest man on the interwebs than
Eclipse I would argue that I can find someone more handsome than slick on the
internet oh God stay away from your with
okay this is kind of scary I'm do this
handsome man do you have the right search settings here we go here we go
here we go here we go here we go please don't have the wrong right there handsomer than slick I don't
have a shaver I can't compete with him you don't have a shaver well maybe
that's why you look scruffy and horrible like some kind of homeless person that's
for movember okay let's from movember movember is about a mustache you just
look like a scrub all right let's find let's find
other men that are more handsome than slick you know what I'm surprised there
aren't more troll pictures here of like not handsome men at
all I I'm I'm really surprised okay
let's try this again I'm just happy Justin Bieber
didn't come up there we go this is more
along this is more your speed I disagree I would I would make
that argument that that is that is more that is more your speed and we are going
to go back to Twitter where they are going to all hardcore agree with me I
don't like so I'm pretty sure that they are can we google small people I'm
pretty sure that we can't Google small people because I'm not going to talk to you about
that all right we're back to Twitter oh
go to that top guy top guy all right we
have a question on Twitter from vag vag let's call them vag let's go
with v let's go with vag um vag 93 says how come mechanical keyboards are so
expensive do you think it's a matter of time before prices become more
reasonable uh not necessarily uh I would
say not ever not at all yeah I don't think so I don't think they'll ever be cheaper uh mechanical keyboards don't
really break down so you don't have the ability to just buy more all the time
like with uh membran keyboards where they'll just die okay look at it this
way do cars get cheaper as a category no not really why
well prices always go up yes steel costs more than it did last year but I think
he's asking in relation to membrane keyboards no but okay hold on because
well no I think he just says they're so expensive do you think it's a matter time before they come down so steel
costs more glass costs more everything costs more a Electronics customers are
so spoiled because this is the only product in the world it actually goes
down where advancing the technology inherently makes it cheaper yeah whereas
like a car you want to like machine more
valves into an engine like it costs more
mechanical keyboard a mechanical keyboard there's nothing digital about
it it costs what it costs to build those
key switches well okay I didn't no I don't mean there's nothing digital about
it that's what you said well I'm talking about a mechanical key switch okay um so
mechanical key switch there's okay I can't believe he's doing this you guys
have to see this he's climbing in my
blinds rocket hey get down don't think
that's you brat okay I got it so rocket is joining
our live stream which he doesn't usually do no um right so I think it's a little
there you go there we go so mechanical keyboards inherently cost money they are
digital yes but like not the switch um
and there's nothing that can make them come down in price because there's nothing to miniaturize yeah and it costs
more to make them well I guess he didn't I guess he wasn't saying in relation so
yeah no more than more than membranes it won't come down and with more people
likely going the way Logitech did with their g710 plus there's all the features
added in I mean the only reason membrane keyboards came about at all was because
of the way that in electronics inherently get cheaper as the computer
got cheaper it became less and less justifiable to include a keyboard that
costs a $100 to manufacture yeah if you're selling a keyboard or a computer
that's a $1,000 total as opposed to $5,000 total wasn't viable for IBM to
make their model M's anymore I mean just the same way that video cards you know
um six seven years ago we're talking you know 9800s and stuff like that used to
come with a bunch of games and like a bunch of accessories and like all this
stuff um and now they don't because inherently
they were like okay okay actually graphics cards are a great example
because as the chips get more efficient and they they've kept increasing the die
sizes over the years so they're not getting cheaper in the same way Electronics usually do but there's a lot
of stuff that costs more on a graphics card no matter what like power delivery
coolers are made of copper and aluminum yeah which are always increasing in
price so uh so that's that's where that
that squeeze comes from you can't include as many value ad perer
referals if the thing is going to always
cost more and that's why if you buy like a prepackaged crap computer like an HP
you're going to get the worst keyboard and the worst Mouse because they're just
going to be as cheap as they possibly can so that they can give you functionality and they know that no
one's going to use it anyway yeah you know what it comes down to is nothing is
free yeah no such thing as a free L there's no such thing as nothing is free
if you buy you know if you buy a car that includes the undercoating that
means they built it in somewhere else y um if you buy a computer that includes a
fantastic mechanical keyboard you paid for that somewhere you paid for it
somewhere so you know what if anything I have no problem with stuff just coming
with less and ultimately me being able to just buy what I actually want as
opposed to bundling things I don't need that's like uh the Neo Eco uh power
supplies from anch right like I have bags of generic power cables I don't
need it to come with the power cable on the other hand speaking as the person who was the buyer for those when they
came out they actually didn't drop the costs at all for me
okay so never mind then I actually didn't even get like a 10-cent savings
on the on the product I assumed they were discounted I don't know however I
think the packaging actually ended up costing them more because it moved to a
cardboard packaging right but they could have done that with any power supply
that's what I'm trying to say well no but I'm saying the money that okay I didn't get a discount on it right
because they saved money on a cable and spent more on an eco-friendly packaging
ecofriendly packaging but like if they did that with all their power supplies
right it would make more sense and then you should get a discount but then there's that one customer who comes
ripping into your store about how you sold them a computer that didn't work
and didn't come with everything it needed so you know from the retailer
side of things but that's how printers have been forever printers never really
came you know how many customers are angry about that on a daily basis even
now I mean you worked at Best Buy sadly yes how many customers came in you a new
one I told them all okay but were you
ever covering for someone uh yeah it did
happen I will admit it did happen yeah or if people just come in and grab a
printer and they don't check the box they wouldn't know um do an ARM wrestle
with slick do this slick do the stream
with slick more often it's much more enjoy you know what you guys you guys
are not loyal at all you guys suck actually no I appreciate every one of
you tuning in to the live stream I know the timing is super not ideal thanks to
everyone who's over in Europe and tuning in in the morning and everyone who's in
s of Eastern Canada United States tuning in super late at night thank you guys
for joining us I'm not sure if slick will be a regular member of the live
stream and for now we are going to put him back under
wraps thank you for watching the live stream tonight and good night and I'll
see you guys again uh should be next Friday remember you can always check
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guys you're not allowed to talk you got the bag on your
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slick
good oh I hit the wrong button I didn't stop the live stream hold on I'm
stopping it now