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most fascinating about those results is that Corsair presumably watched that video and then came out with this this is the mp600 pro not only does it feature water cooling but it can actually be plumbed into your custom liquid cooling loop meaning that this thing should be the coolest SSD on the market there we go thermal pad nice copper block you won't get any corrosion from adding aluminum parts to your loop no actual fins or anything on the inside surface of the block i can i can see in there uh you've got a faison e18 controller it's a nice high-end controller pci express gen4 you've got presumably what about two gigs probably of ddr3 memory and then two terabytes of 3d tlc nan that's rated for 3600 terabytes written so very high-end SSD here's a funny thing the heat spreader that goes on the bottom side of the drive okay so it's got thermal pad there too for the RAM chip and then four yep four nand packages that are back there that one doesn't actually connect to the water cooling thermally in any way but there could be a good engineering reason for that you see there's conflicting evidence out there as to whether or not cooling the nand flash is actually beneficial the old wisdom back when we made our original video was actually that cooling it could make it not last as long but then there's new research that seems to indicate that going too hot could increase errors and basically just the cooler the better may be true like with pretty much any other integrated circuits of course though even if cooling the nand is good the hottest component on this device is absolutely this controller and that's the one that if it goes too hot is going to affect our performance so that's what the water blocks attach to let's go ahead and reattach it shall we now this is a little awkward in order to install our water cooled SSD we actually have to remove this chunky heat sink with sexy RGB on it and this thermal pad and put them here so that we can have this here oh crap i put the water block on upside down up till this point in the video we may have actually been very unfair to Corsair something neither you nor i considered is that on most motherboards the highest performance m.2 slot is actually extremely close to the CPU socket because it has to be connected directly to CPU PCIe lanes what that means is that it also happens to be directly behind the super hot backplate of your graphics card this thing might need water cooling more than we thought no well no you know what let's give it one one fan let's give it a try let's give it a try so we're gonna run a control okay with just the SSD with just the heatsink on it and see if it slows down under a stress test ready go it's going now hey there it goes all right we got total activity a hundred percent on our drive he's ramping up boys wait holy it balls we have a core i9 11 900 k pegged at 90 percent usage just sharding data onto and then reading it off of this drive oh yeah the test that i made up slams it this is not what we expected to happen you can see this red line here is from yesterday the drive went whoa it's so hot in here and thermal throttled and today thanks to our magnificently you're welcome air conditioned warehouse workspace the drive did not actually reach the 70 degree thermal throttling point making it only to 68. that's not nice remember how i mentioned before that one of the challenges for an SSD sitting right there between the CPU and GPU is that when you're gaming or doing anything else intensive it could heat up even more than it otherwise would well we're just gonna run fur mark and we're gonna try this again good luck everyone something to note is our curve might look a little bit different this time because we didn't let it cool all the way down because we're trying to thermal throttling that's the whole point well that's just great we peaked at 79 degrees and definitely thermal throttled but with thermal throttle like to hell and back we went from almost two gigabytes a second to one Gigabyte a second reads that's good hypothesis proved that GPU being nearby is bad and it can thermal throttle all right well let's add water cooling of course depending who you ask there's a lot of different ways that you can water cool a product remember back when i got that water-cooled kit of memory that just had water in it but it wasn't actually circulating well i have a theory that we could actually get away with doing something similar here just filling the SSD with water and then sealing it up in a nutshell what we're doing by throwing water in here is we're adding kind of thermal inertia we're making it so that when the drive is under heavy load let's say we're editing 12k video or something like that it takes a lot of thermal energy for that water to actually change its own temperature because water's awesome thank you water you're amazing then what will happen is we will stop doing what we're doing and it will be able to dissipate that heat so it's really great for absorbing bursty loads but maybe not as good for long sustained ones now if there weren't thermal protections built into this product i would never recommend doing something like this because the drive cannot exceed 70 degrees it's probably fine but if you had something that could get to boiling temperature you could create a lot of pressure in there and like blow a gasket and water everywhere now actually seems like a really good time to explain the test that we're using to thermal throttle our SSD we're using a tool called iometer which was developed by Intel back in the 90s and then open sourced in the 2000s it's not particularly user friendly but what it is is extremely customizable so the way we've got it configured here is we've set our maximum disk size to 40 million sectors which means basically we're working with a 20 Gigabyte file it's important that this is more than the amount of system memory we have then in terms of our access specifications we're hitting it with four kibi-byte accesses which is not quite the same as a kilobyte but don't worry about it and they are 50 reads 50 rights and it's all sequential so we are just slamming this thing one other really important thing we had to do is change the results display update frequency to two seconds otherwise this drive is so fast that it would actually just throttle at the CPU level if we tried to update more often than that so fascinating results the red is without water cooling and the green is well filling up our block with water so as expected the green one takes quite a bit longer to reach that 80 degree thermal throttle point but then what we didn't expect is that it doesn't throttle all the way back to 70 degrees and doesn't tank the performance to nearly the same degree although the performance gets extremely inconsistent so this is the actual drive right performance isn't that fascinating all right let's do it properly now oh ah hot oh wow that's hot water oh man this is just it feels wrong you know here we go water cooled SSD ladies and gentlemen we mocked it at the start of this video but it could be necessary nay essential for your gaming enjoyment what the heck is this going on it's having a little i've never seen that having a little freak out here no i know what it is there's no freaking restriction in the loop that block is basically just a u-turn like it's not there's no micro fins or anything like that you could get really high flow rates through a single component loop but these days everything cpus gpus they've got these like impingement jet things these little micro fins that are hard for the water to get through so you never see stuff like this anymore i hadn't i hadn't seen anything go like this in years well that's great for cooling it means our flow rate is going to be terrific check this out our drive is at 19 degrees 19 degrees ladies and gentlemen 60 minutes sure okay what do you think is it gonna throttle there it goes it went up by a degree two degrees we're back and this is amazing we managed to reach a maximum of 29 degrees over the course of a full hour long test and our performance basically still got some of that inconsistency although that's probably more down to drive garbage collection and like nand write speed limits more than anything else but it did stay higher than any of our other tests so in conclusion water cooling your SSD is completely unnecessary and we've even done the math to prove it the thing is under normal circumstances it is conceivable that your CPU or your graphics card could be 100 loaded for extended periods of time whether you're gaming or running some kind of render or simulation so when we test those components that's why we hit them so hard to ensure that they won't thermal throttle under those conditions but with an SSD you normally only hit it with very short bursty loads at a time and when i say normally i mean almost always outside of industrial or server applications so get this at the speed of this drive which it's writing at about two gigabytes a second this entire time it would manage to write over the course of an hour actually you can see it hardware info has done the math for us it has written a total of 22.8 gigabytes just running this benchmark to put that in perspective because of the performance of this drive at its 1400 terabytes rated right endurance it would actually burn itself out in a span of somewhere between three and four days now obviously Corsair doesn't expect anyone to actually use the drive like this because they estimate it would take about 280 years to fully utilize the right endurance of this drive because they think you'd probably do about 32 gigabytes a day i would say their estimate is actually probably on the high side in terms of how much you'd write a day so this thing should last for a really freaking long time unless of course you are stupid enough to run benchmarks like this that could actually cause it to thermal throttle because then check this out we managed to use two percent of our drive endurance just sitting here benchmarking it to make this video so is water cooling good for your SSD maybe but only if you were going to kill it in some other way the one saving grace for this product is that the price of the mp600 pro air cooled version is 450 some odd dollars and the price for the water cooled version is actually 469 dollars so at least it's not really costing you any extra assuming that you already had a water cooled system and it certainly does run cooler especially in that slot that's got all these heat generating components around it that is a very mangled conclusion almost as mangled as the segway to our sponsor ifixit sponsored today's video their essentials electronics tool kit is a great basic kit for new users it has everything you need for your most essential electronics repairs it's compact it includes the most popular precision bits that you'll need and they're all held in 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