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Jon: So I should be able to talk down here. 2 00:00:03.370 --> 00:00:04.804 Jon: I'll eat the microphone. 3 00:00:05.672 --> 00:00:09.042 I'm Jon; I'm the senior tech technician at the Labs. 4 00:00:10.143 --> 00:00:12.579 I oversee a lot of the higher priority projects, 5 00:00:12.579 --> 00:00:15.648 as well as training on the other technicians on a lot of our verticals. 6 00:00:15.682 --> 00:00:18.551 Sammy: Alright Jon, before we start give us two truths and a lie. 7 00:00:18.685 --> 00:00:23.490 Jon: I've Robin Hooded three arrows at different archery competitions. 8 00:00:23.623 --> 00:00:29.195 My dog is actually named after a rifle company, and I daily drive Linux. 9 00:00:29.262 --> 00:00:30.997 Sammy: I can see you doing all three, is that weird? 10 00:00:32.032 --> 00:00:33.066 Jon: That's the point. 11 00:00:33.767 --> 00:00:36.269 Sammy: We'll get to those at the end, so we'll go through our questions now. 12 00:00:36.536 --> 00:00:36.970 Jon: Okay. 13 00:00:37.604 --> 00:00:40.140 Sammy: So what do you do here? You kind of explained at the start, but. 14 00:00:40.173 --> 00:00:43.209 Jon: Yeah, I mean, I was hired as one of the first technicians; 15 00:00:43.343 --> 00:00:47.313 like officially, as opposed to people that kind of were floating 16 00:00:47.313 --> 00:00:51.251 between different job titles, per se. 17 00:00:51.251 --> 00:00:58.358 I developed a lot of our current testing platform stuff for CPUs and GPUs, 18 00:00:58.358 --> 00:01:00.260 as well as a bunch of other PC hardware. 19 00:01:00.260 --> 00:01:04.264 Basically interview and train a lot of the different test technicians, 20 00:01:04.264 --> 00:01:06.533 more or less the supervisor without the title. 21 00:01:06.533 --> 00:01:07.600 I make Nick do that. 22 00:01:08.935 --> 00:01:11.938 Sammy: Alright, so then how long have you been here at the company? 23 00:01:11.938 --> 00:01:13.139 Jon: About two and a half years now. 24 00:01:13.173 --> 00:01:13.773 Sammy: Two and a half years? 25 00:01:13.773 --> 00:01:14.074 Jon: Yeah. 26 00:01:14.074 --> 00:01:15.375 Sammy: Is that how long Labs have been around? 27 00:01:15.575 --> 00:01:17.444 Jon: No, they've been around even longer. 28 00:01:17.510 --> 00:01:17.911 Sammy: Oh, okay. 29 00:01:17.911 --> 00:01:24.317 Jon: So that's the thing is before we actually had a specific role for like test technicians, 30 00:01:24.317 --> 00:01:28.588 it was kind of just like people that were doing a bit of everything at the time. 31 00:01:28.588 --> 00:01:32.158 There was people that were doing like mobile stuff and then also doing PC stuff. 32 00:01:32.158 --> 00:01:35.929 There was some of the developers that were developing software, and then also doing testing. 33 00:01:35.929 --> 00:01:41.601 So we've started to actually narrow down what the roles actually do now, which is nice, 34 00:01:42.302 --> 00:01:43.136 a lot more focused. 35 00:01:43.136 --> 00:01:44.737 Sammy: Then what kind of hobbies are you interested in? 36 00:01:44.737 --> 00:01:51.044 Jon: Archery, like shooting guns, Airsoft's a big one, Paintball for a while; 37 00:01:51.044 --> 00:01:53.546 basically if it shoots I'm probably into it. 38 00:01:53.546 --> 00:01:56.616 Obviously, video games; I love sim racing. 39 00:01:56.850 --> 00:01:59.285 I'm sure there's a plethora more, but those are- 40 00:01:59.285 --> 00:01:59.853 Sammy: Shooters? 41 00:02:00.019 --> 00:02:00.653 Jon: Yeah, yeah. 42 00:02:00.687 --> 00:02:01.387 Sammy: Are you into shooters? 43 00:02:01.387 --> 00:02:01.588 Jon: Yeah. 44 00:02:01.588 --> 00:02:02.388 Sammy: What's your favorite shooter? 45 00:02:02.455 --> 00:02:07.727 Jon: That's a good question; because it depends on like more like Tarkov style. 46 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:11.197 Jon: Are we talking about like escape shooters? Are we talking about like arenas? 47 00:02:11.197 --> 00:02:12.065 Sammy: Just your favorite. 48 00:02:12.098 --> 00:02:14.701 Sammy: Just your favorite type and your favorite game of that type. 49 00:02:14.801 --> 00:02:19.606 Jon: I'd probably say like Battlefield 2 was probably one of the best games I played; 50 00:02:19.606 --> 00:02:24.010 it had balance issues obviously, but it's always got a little place in my heart for that one. 51 00:02:24.010 --> 00:02:27.480 And hearing that Battlefield 6 is actually back to form is kind of sick. 52 00:02:27.480 --> 00:02:29.349 Sammy: What made you interested in your role? 53 00:02:29.449 --> 00:02:31.718 Jon: I mean, I've always been into PC hardware and stuff. 54 00:02:31.718 --> 00:02:33.720 I did that actually in my off time. 55 00:02:34.621 --> 00:02:36.222 I used to actually write a blog. 56 00:02:36.422 --> 00:02:40.226 It was short-lived at the time because it was just extra time on my hands, 57 00:02:40.260 --> 00:02:44.364 but I did stuff like benchmarking for GPUs for a little bit, 58 00:02:44.364 --> 00:02:46.666 started looking at thermals for different things. 59 00:02:46.699 --> 00:02:51.237 And like that's just been my life ever since I touched a PC at like six years old. 60 00:02:51.404 --> 00:02:52.405 Sammy: And how old are you now? 61 00:02:53.239 --> 00:02:53.873 Jon: I'm old. 62 00:02:55.308 --> 00:02:57.810 Sammy: If you had to name top three games of all time, what would it be? 63 00:02:58.244 --> 00:02:59.045 Jon: Ooh... 64 00:02:59.145 --> 00:03:01.614 Jon: Probably Batman Arkham City would be number one. 65 00:03:01.614 --> 00:03:02.782 Sammy: That's cool, that's a good one. 66 00:03:02.782 --> 00:03:04.117 Jon: My favorite game series. 67 00:03:04.117 --> 00:03:07.153 Jon: Again, Battlefield 2, absolute classic banger; 68 00:03:07.187 --> 00:03:10.723 and more or less what everything else has been modeled after now. 69 00:03:10.790 --> 00:03:14.727 And then maybe, let's see, what would be another good one? 70 00:03:14.861 --> 00:03:17.130 I'll have to come back to that, maybe we'll address it at the end. 71 00:03:17.130 --> 00:03:17.497 Sammy: Alright. 72 00:03:17.730 --> 00:03:20.767 Sammy: Sorry, I just noticed your phone, does that have an aux? 73 00:03:20.867 --> 00:03:22.101 Jon: This is a ZenFone 9. 74 00:03:22.235 --> 00:03:23.203 Sammy: The Mphone 9? 75 00:03:23.203 --> 00:03:24.938 Jon: Zenfone 9 from ASUS. 76 00:03:24.938 --> 00:03:26.005 Sammy: And it has an aux? 77 00:03:26.005 --> 00:03:26.406 Jon: Yep. 78 00:03:26.406 --> 00:03:28.408 Sammy: Wow, that's crazy; you don't see those nowadays. 79 00:03:29.042 --> 00:03:31.477 Jon: Yeah, I know; everybody's going Bluetooth now and it sucks. 80 00:03:32.111 --> 00:03:32.979 Sammy: Do you like that phone? 81 00:03:33.246 --> 00:03:34.214 Jon: Yeah, it's pretty good. 82 00:03:34.714 --> 00:03:37.050 For me, it's a little small form factor. 83 00:03:37.150 --> 00:03:38.685 Jon: Too many phones are too big nowadays. 84 00:03:38.685 --> 00:03:39.352 Sammy: Yeah, no, I agree. 85 00:03:39.352 --> 00:03:41.087 Sammy: I literally have an S23, 86 00:03:41.187 --> 00:03:41.521 Jon: Yeah. 87 00:03:41.521 --> 00:03:43.590 Sammy: and I got an iPhone 17 so I can have a smaller one. 88 00:03:43.623 --> 00:03:44.023 Jon: Yeah. 89 00:03:44.057 --> 00:03:45.692 Sammy: But it's not so small where I can't use it. 90 00:03:45.725 --> 00:03:51.764 Jon: Yeah, that's the thing; I remember when Google came by last year, 91 00:03:51.764 --> 00:03:54.400 I think it was, one of the reps came by and actually asked me, 92 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:56.402 what could we do better in the phone space? 93 00:03:56.402 --> 00:03:58.805 I was like, make smaller phones. 94 00:03:59.472 --> 00:04:00.039 Jon: Do it! 95 00:04:00.907 --> 00:04:01.708 Sammy: There's an audience. 96 00:04:02.075 --> 00:04:06.412 Jon: Right? Like straight up, phones are getting like seven inches; 97 00:04:06.446 --> 00:04:09.048 it might as well be a mini phablet at this point. 98 00:04:09.048 --> 00:04:12.385 Sammy: It actually is, yeah; because S23 is basically like a mini tablet. 99 00:04:12.485 --> 00:04:14.087 But I got it for that specific reason. 100 00:04:14.087 --> 00:04:14.387 Jon: Yeah. 101 00:04:14.387 --> 00:04:16.689 Sammy: But I realized it's great when you watch stuff, 102 00:04:16.689 --> 00:04:19.926 but then when you actually use it for like phone using, it's horrible. 103 00:04:19.926 --> 00:04:21.794 Jon: Yeah, it's terrible; they're all too clunky. 104 00:04:21.794 --> 00:04:24.831 And like the fact that you need like Costco brand pants 105 00:04:24.897 --> 00:04:29.602 to have massive pockets to fit these in, that's why half the time I wear cargo pants. 106 00:04:29.602 --> 00:04:31.604 Sammy: I carry out a bag now just so I can carry my wallet- 107 00:04:31.604 --> 00:04:34.440 Sammy: I carry out a bag so I can put my phone in there. 108 00:04:34.540 --> 00:04:36.309 I don't like how big the phone's gone. 109 00:04:36.876 --> 00:04:37.477 Jon: It's ridiculous. 110 00:04:37.477 --> 00:04:40.179 Sammy: It sounds like a boomer thing; but, you know, like when you- 111 00:04:40.179 --> 00:04:44.450 Jon: I mean, especially now that like we have swipe texting, 112 00:04:44.450 --> 00:04:48.054 like half the time you don't even need to press individual buttons on a keyboard. 113 00:04:48.087 --> 00:04:49.922 That was the whole point of why they kept getting bigger, 114 00:04:49.922 --> 00:04:54.193 its because, oh, I can't type on the little keyboard and I need a bigger screen for videos. 115 00:04:54.193 --> 00:04:54.661 Sammy: Mmmm. 116 00:04:54.661 --> 00:05:00.333 Jon: Now it's just straight up videos, because like now you can swipe and there's no point. 117 00:05:00.433 --> 00:05:02.969 Sammy: Okay sorry, so going back on the main topic here. 118 00:05:03.903 --> 00:05:04.971 Sammy: How's working at LMG? 119 00:05:05.705 --> 00:05:06.339 Jon: Pretty good. 120 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:10.977 Jon: Deal with a lot of interesting projects, especially working in the Labs. 121 00:05:11.110 --> 00:05:15.281 You know, it's basically everything that I've been kind of looking for my whole life, 122 00:05:15.815 --> 00:05:18.484 especially since like as we addressed before, you know, 123 00:05:18.484 --> 00:05:20.453 like dealing with a lot of benchmarking and stuff, 124 00:05:20.453 --> 00:05:22.155 it's always been something I've been passionate about. 125 00:05:22.155 --> 00:05:26.025 So being able to actually like do that as work is pretty awesome. 126 00:05:26.059 --> 00:05:27.126 Sammy: Is it what you expected? 127 00:05:27.226 --> 00:05:28.027 Jon: Yeah, more or less. 128 00:05:28.461 --> 00:05:31.297 Jon: You know, coming up with new tests especially is kind of 129 00:05:32.632 --> 00:05:33.833 an interesting part of the job. 130 00:05:33.833 --> 00:05:35.234 Sammy: Is there one test you're proud of? 131 00:05:35.234 --> 00:05:36.035 Jon: Not really. 132 00:05:36.169 --> 00:05:38.671 Jon: I think it's all like you know, project to project, 133 00:05:38.671 --> 00:05:41.374 you always end up with like these ad hoc tests where it's like, 134 00:05:41.407 --> 00:05:45.411 oh, let's see what happens if we put it in the thermal chamber at like negative 40. 135 00:05:45.945 --> 00:05:47.880 Cool; that happened, I guess. 136 00:05:47.880 --> 00:05:50.616 Sammy: Alright, what's your weirdest story working at LMG then? 137 00:05:50.717 --> 00:05:54.020 Sammy: Oh, I'm sorry; I got to stop saying LMG, is the Labs part of LMG? 138 00:05:54.020 --> 00:05:54.487 Jon: Yes. 139 00:05:54.587 --> 00:05:55.154 Sammy: Okay. 140 00:05:55.154 --> 00:05:57.957 Jon: We're not like Floatplane, where they're on their own little island. 141 00:05:57.990 --> 00:06:01.327 Jon: Like definitely the biggest weirdness for me, 142 00:06:01.327 --> 00:06:04.530 like I've never had like the stories that some people have with Linus of like, 143 00:06:04.530 --> 00:06:06.232 oh, I saw him naked or whatever. 144 00:06:06.232 --> 00:06:09.302 Because we're also still kind of isolated over in Labs land, 145 00:06:09.302 --> 00:06:12.505 it's more of like weird testing stuff. 146 00:06:12.605 --> 00:06:17.076 I've almost had my eyeballs seared off by that 10, 000 nit TV; so that was cool. 147 00:06:17.076 --> 00:06:18.177 Yeah, that thing was so bright. 148 00:06:18.177 --> 00:06:19.946 Jon: So I was in, I'm in like a dark room, right? 149 00:06:19.946 --> 00:06:20.646 Jon: So your eyes... 150 00:06:20.646 --> 00:06:21.681 Sammy: Oh my god. 151 00:06:21.681 --> 00:06:24.083 Jon: ...adjust to that, and you start testing it. 152 00:06:24.250 --> 00:06:28.287 Jon: I basically had to look at the opposite wall to make sure that it was still like bright. 153 00:06:28.287 --> 00:06:32.024 It was really bright in there, because it's, it wasn't just at 10, 000 nits. 154 00:06:32.058 --> 00:06:35.928 It would actually peak past it to like 18, 000 - 20, 000. 155 00:06:35.962 --> 00:06:41.868 That screen that we made that we tested at, with like the ridiculously bright screen 156 00:06:41.868 --> 00:06:46.339 was the brightest that we ever had; but that one Hisense was pretty close. 157 00:06:46.372 --> 00:06:48.274 Sammy: Like it's like, it's like in the middle of the night you wake up 158 00:06:48.274 --> 00:06:50.510 and then you like turn the lights on in like the washroom, it's like- 159 00:06:50.510 --> 00:06:52.612 Jon: Yeah, it was basically like that every two seconds. 160 00:06:52.612 --> 00:06:54.046 Sammy: Yeah, oh my god. 161 00:06:54.247 --> 00:06:56.315 Jon: Yeah, you're basically getting flash banged all day. 162 00:06:56.349 --> 00:06:57.150 Sammy: Oh my god. 163 00:06:57.150 --> 00:06:57.483 Jon: Yeah. 164 00:06:57.483 --> 00:07:00.119 Sammy: Alright, so what's the hardest part of your job then? 165 00:07:00.153 --> 00:07:01.854 Jon: Probably staying critical. 166 00:07:03.790 --> 00:07:08.294 Dealing with a lot of testing, obviously we're providing a lot of that data for the videos; 167 00:07:08.327 --> 00:07:13.065 and as we had, you know, a couple of years ago we had that whole controversy of stuff. 168 00:07:13.065 --> 00:07:14.567 or misrepresented on both sides, right? Like we're not necessarily, 169 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:16.169 you know, perfect people around here. 170 00:07:16.202 --> 00:07:18.838 But we've implemented a lot of good processes of like, 171 00:07:19.172 --> 00:07:21.174 you know, making sure that we do peer review, 172 00:07:21.174 --> 00:07:23.676 and then we have like at least two sets of eyes now. 173 00:07:23.676 --> 00:07:27.380 So me being the senior, especially it's um... 174 00:07:27.980 --> 00:07:33.619 it's a lot harder to, you know, stay critical and make sure like, 175 00:07:33.653 --> 00:07:38.191 okay, we've done everything we possibly can, we've answered every question. 176 00:07:39.091 --> 00:07:43.362 I have an acronym that I tell that every other technician that we hire basically, 177 00:07:43.362 --> 00:07:47.033 which is WWJA, "What Would Jon Ask". 178 00:07:48.334 --> 00:07:51.671 Jon: Now that we actually have a team of test technicians, 179 00:07:51.671 --> 00:07:54.173 I can actually take a step back, breathe and actually be like 180 00:07:54.173 --> 00:07:58.744 okay, what can we focus on? What can we work on within Labs to actually make sure that, 181 00:07:58.744 --> 00:08:01.948 you know, we're holding ourselves to a higher standard. 182 00:08:01.948 --> 00:08:03.883 Sammy: Then how did you get into your skill? 183 00:08:03.883 --> 00:08:09.222 Jon: Like I said, when I was six my parents bought their first PC; 184 00:08:09.222 --> 00:08:11.724 before that, we had like a really old Mac. 185 00:08:11.724 --> 00:08:15.228 I forget what one it was, but it was one of the ones that takes like floppy disks 186 00:08:15.261 --> 00:08:16.896 and it was all command lines, so that was fun. 187 00:08:16.896 --> 00:08:19.632 But when we got our first like Windows 95 machine, 188 00:08:19.632 --> 00:08:21.701 I was just in front of that thing basically every day, 189 00:08:21.734 --> 00:08:23.636 like learning about it and stuff like that; 190 00:08:23.669 --> 00:08:27.273 and then when I got to the point of middle school, 191 00:08:27.273 --> 00:08:29.375 my parents actually bought me my first computer, 192 00:08:29.475 --> 00:08:34.780 that I started tinkering with and started swapping out like CPUs, GPUs and stuff like that. 193 00:08:34.780 --> 00:08:36.482 And then just from then I was basically hooked. 194 00:08:36.516 --> 00:08:38.985 Sammy: Then what's the coolest project you got to work on? 195 00:08:38.985 --> 00:08:40.586 Jon: That's always a difficult one, right? 196 00:08:40.586 --> 00:08:43.422 Cause every new project almost seems like a cool project. 197 00:08:43.456 --> 00:08:46.959 There's not really stuff that we necessarily have that's boring. 198 00:08:46.959 --> 00:08:48.861 Obviously we have like revolving projects, 199 00:08:48.861 --> 00:08:50.596 like you know, ShortCircuits where it's just, 200 00:08:50.596 --> 00:08:52.298 oh, it's another laptop or whatever. 201 00:08:52.298 --> 00:08:58.104 Probably one of my favorites has been dealing with the new AI Max+ chips. 202 00:08:58.104 --> 00:09:04.644 It's because you're getting a CPU that has an iGPU that's basically equivalent to a 4060. 203 00:09:04.644 --> 00:09:06.712 That framework desktop was... 204 00:09:06.712 --> 00:09:12.919 it's expensive, but as far as like a technical achievement goes, like it's honestly amazing. 205 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:14.453 Sammy: What was your job prior to LMG? 206 00:09:14.921 --> 00:09:21.093 Jon: So prior to working here I actually worked at a metal roofing manufacturing plant; 207 00:09:22.228 --> 00:09:25.531 for a while, that was three years of my life. 208 00:09:25.531 --> 00:09:31.604 Before that, I worked at a grocery store as a night stocker for I think three years as well. 209 00:09:31.604 --> 00:09:35.141 And then before that I was working at a phone center for technical support. 210 00:09:35.141 --> 00:09:38.344 Sammy: Did you have a third game to put on your top three? 211 00:09:38.377 --> 00:09:40.279 Jon: Maybe we'll address that even later. 212 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:41.113 Sammy: Wow. 213 00:09:41.614 --> 00:09:42.782 Sammy: He's stalling, he's stalling. 214 00:09:43.182 --> 00:09:46.485 Sammy: Well, those are all the questions that were written for you. 215 00:09:46.485 --> 00:09:48.220 Sammy: But then I also have a secret question for you. 216 00:09:48.220 --> 00:09:48.754 Jon: Okay. 217 00:09:48.821 --> 00:09:51.223 Sammy: Your AMD upgrade's coming out tomorrow. 218 00:09:52.024 --> 00:09:52.491 Jon: Tomorrow. 219 00:09:52.491 --> 00:09:53.559 Sammy: As of this video releasing. 220 00:09:53.659 --> 00:09:54.727 Sammy: What was your experience like? 221 00:09:54.727 --> 00:09:56.696 Sammy: Cause I feel like it's one of our iconic series, 222 00:09:56.696 --> 00:09:59.098 and a lot of people wishes they had that kind of experience. 223 00:09:59.231 --> 00:09:59.599 Jon: Mmmm. 224 00:09:59.599 --> 00:10:00.399 Sammy: And so- 225 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.402 Jon: I mean, I was kind of exhausted when we filmed it; 226 00:10:03.402 --> 00:10:07.406 cause I spent the last four days literally sanding and painting my house 227 00:10:07.406 --> 00:10:12.011 and I was up till 3am finishing cleaning up. 228 00:10:13.045 --> 00:10:17.350 See, I was very tired during the shoot but I mean, overall it was pretty good. 229 00:10:17.350 --> 00:10:20.753 You know, being able to actually like put all those, all that new hardware in; 230 00:10:20.753 --> 00:10:24.390 especially the TV, that's been like probably one of the best parts of the upgrade 231 00:10:24.390 --> 00:10:27.693 is like going from that 44 inch to 77. 232 00:10:27.727 --> 00:10:32.398 It's just, yeah, it's a stark upgrade and it fits that wall a lot better. 233 00:10:32.498 --> 00:10:36.636 Sammy: Well, not only did we get his experience, we got a little leak of his upgrade. 234 00:10:38.104 --> 00:10:40.139 Now we're going to ask your two truths and a lie. 235 00:10:40.139 --> 00:10:41.207 You want to, if you want to repeat that, 236 00:10:41.207 --> 00:10:44.243 I'm gonna take a stab at it and then you can tell us which one's the lie. 237 00:10:44.243 --> 00:10:47.046 Jon: I daily drive Li-nux or Linux, sorry. 238 00:10:48.447 --> 00:10:51.150 My dog is named after a rifle company, 239 00:10:51.651 --> 00:10:55.421 and I've Robinhooded three arrows at archery tournaments. 240 00:10:55.554 --> 00:10:57.223 Sammy: Okay, I feel like the Robinhooding is like, 241 00:10:57.890 --> 00:11:03.663 it's so specific and so like, like it's like one in a million chance; 242 00:11:03.663 --> 00:11:04.897 so I think that's the truth. 243 00:11:04.997 --> 00:11:08.567 Sammy: So my assumption is the Linux, it's a lie. 244 00:11:08.801 --> 00:11:09.268 Jon: Yeah. 245 00:11:09.402 --> 00:11:11.771 Sammy: I got it, let's goooo! 246 00:11:11.804 --> 00:11:13.673 Sammy: Wait, wait, so you don't daily drive a Linux? 247 00:11:13.706 --> 00:11:19.812 Jon: I do have it on one of my systems that I use for work, but it's not for play. 248 00:11:19.812 --> 00:11:22.882 Sammy: Yeah, I feel like you're the type of guy who goes home and plays games, 249 00:11:22.882 --> 00:11:27.286 and I feel like Linux gaming is very... tinkering a lot. 250 00:11:27.286 --> 00:11:30.589 Jon: Well, I mean we have an article about that, we actually technically have two; 251 00:11:30.589 --> 00:11:33.726 as well as we will be covering it in an upcoming video. 252 00:11:33.826 --> 00:11:35.061 Sammy: Alright, and now the game. 253 00:11:35.061 --> 00:11:35.561 Jon: The game. 254 00:11:35.561 --> 00:11:37.363 Sammy: There's no more, there's no more delaying it. 255 00:11:38.664 --> 00:11:40.032 Sammy: So what do you have, Battlefield? 256 00:11:40.166 --> 00:11:44.603 Jon: Probably like going all the way back to 16-bit era of like Donkey Kong Country. 257 00:11:44.603 --> 00:11:45.371 Sammy: Mmmm. 258 00:11:45.504 --> 00:11:50.476 Jon: Which I still have my original carts, and it's in the upgrade video 259 00:11:50.476 --> 00:11:52.578 when Linus actually looks at them. 260 00:11:52.645 --> 00:11:54.146 Sammy: Wow, how much is it worth? 261 00:11:54.380 --> 00:11:55.181 Jon: I have no idea. 262 00:11:56.148 --> 00:11:57.983 Sammy: I feel like that ruins it if you look it up. 263 00:11:58.117 --> 00:11:58.451 Jon: Right? 264 00:11:58.451 --> 00:11:59.051 Sammy: It's just a habit. 265 00:11:59.051 --> 00:12:01.120 Jon: For me, I mean it's not like I'm ever going to sell it; 266 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:01.454 Sammy: Yeah, 267 00:12:01.454 --> 00:12:06.025 Jon: so I mean, I don't really care what the value is, it's important to me, right? 268 00:12:06.025 --> 00:12:07.727 Jon: Yeah; well, thanks for watching, guys. 269 00:12:07.993 --> 00:12:10.196 Hopefully you enjoyed this and learning a little bit about me. 270 00:12:10.196 --> 00:12:11.831 Make sure to watch that upgrade.