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funny story to start the show uh is this gonna be nipple related no

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it's not surprising right uh anyways when i came back from

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taiwan i came to yvr the airport that is

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near us don't worry about it um and the statue with nipples no no unfortunately

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not gonna work nipples into this at some point no actually

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none crap okay you came to the vancouver airport

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i'll try she's in richmond by the way vancouver international airport not in

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vancouver yes it's in the greater vancouver area that's true

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so or a greater vancouver regional district as it's actually called the gta

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is the greater toronto area the gvrd sucka okay my bad anyways the wi-fi

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network there does one of those things where you have to like approve your

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login thing through a portal and whatever and i was trying to do it it

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wasn't working and i needed internet at that point in time so i was like whatever and turned my Wi-Fi off

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didn't really think about it a little while later

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using my phone and it's like oh your wi-fi your data has been turned off

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because you're at your maximum my warning didn't come through or i swiped

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it without realizing it because i hate it when notifications load while you're

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in your notification bar i might have swiped it without actually seeing it

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so my data is dead and i think i'm like

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six days into the month or something

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so that sucks i have a dumb phone for a

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while well your smartphone just a dumb user

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yeah that's fair so i guess uh

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yeah i know i failed to work nipples into that yeah you did that's okay

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because i can work nipples into anything uh speak up

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people are asking us to turn the mic up but i just did a test recording and it

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was fine so um i guess it was i guess i

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had the volume a little high actually i don't even know why that worked at all

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but i what i just did in terms of testing maybe i could load up the stream

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and see if people are messing with me in the meantime why don't you let them know what fantastic topics we have for them

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today so we have uh the the whole catastrophe around team

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viewer all the the accounts being hacked into or passwords being known or

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whatever because those aren't really the same thing but anyways we'll talk about

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that later gawker has officially filed for bankruptcy and is saying some other

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stuff uh sony officially confirms the 4k ready playstation but i believe it's not

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being announced at e3 or something and

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i don't actually know a fourth topic that's interesting you sound wonderful

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to me by the way do i yeah i'm at like 38 on my system volume so i um

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okay space mining space mining what i

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don't know i didn't see that all right space

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yeah we may not get to that yeah intro time

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equivalent to not turning your wi-fi back on for a week or maybe not gross

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maybe it's like hot oh if you're into that sort of thing like

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phone spit yeah that's probably not good all right

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apparently the intro is loud well you know what you guys there is only so much

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i don't know there's only so much i can do

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jim's address says ow and it's also that

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it's pre-recorded i think no it's not pre-recorded all right so

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let's get into some topics first up we've got and i actually have no idea

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whether um whether luke said that this was going to

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be one of our one of our main topics for this week

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gawker is no more at least in its current form

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maybe someday it will reach its final form

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but that won't be its current form uh they filed for bankruptcy

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and have said that they will sell the company uh the headline says to zif

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davis or someone else that i don't think it's necessarily gawker saying they're

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gonna sell to ziff davis it's that zif davis has an offer in on them for

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somewhere to the tune of 90 to 100 million dollars you know maybe i should

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just buy gawker

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what yeah i know you know for a fact that i can't that's not going to work

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can't afford that it also just doesn't sound like a good idea yes

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why would we do that if we could just like life hacker i i said a tweet about

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this earlier i was like i don't really care about the rest of it but if life hacker survives that would be cool yeah

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if we could just consume like just them i'd be down with that i mean thea

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already could use some of the upstairs office space for that make them all canadians theoretically they could sell

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individual publications so uh so gawker

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is a life hacker jezebel dead spin

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gawkerdog.com gizmodo kotaku jalopnik

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uh and yeah jezebel and uh

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i don't know if you said that yeah no you said dead spin actually but you know

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good job um you said it twice which is important great for people who didn't

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hear you yeah um

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so out of all of those yeah i think life hacker i didn't used to mind gizmodo but

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i can't remember the last time i went on that site i liked them i think 2009

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yeah a little bit let's see if that lines up nope how old were you in 2009 19. you were

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nice well 18 for most of it 18 okay so i was close very close i was actually

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quite close okay so um

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basically yeah they're filing for a chapter might even be more accurate

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um actually yeah i think so

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it was right around there yes um so they're they're they've announced

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their chapter 11 filing uh basically that puts them in protection from

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creditors for the time being while they sort of entertain offers to buy the

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company um gawker and nick denton have

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said that they will not pay hulk hogan and peter thiel the 140 million dollars

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they have told their employees that they still plan to fight the case and to

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operate the publishing business while they do so um

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but zif davis has come out and said there's uh let me just see if i can

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bring up the uh the article here so this was in an internal memo it does say for

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less than a hundred million dollars like i'm assuming not a ton less there's

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conflicting reports so this particular one on recode.net says for around 100

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million but it should be noted that they may end up paying more because this is

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just their initial bid for it and actually nothing to do necessarily with

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um how much it'll end up selling for so someone else could make a counter offer

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yup yup it could end up being a bidding war over jezebel yep

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which i guess someone wants apparently um

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i didn't know that these sites as a whole were still

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that big i had no idea

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online written media publications were still worth like

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tens of millions of dollars each i mean i guess it's sort of enormous amounts of

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traffic um this is a really good clip with nick denton basically saying uh nope i stand

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by the decision to publish that even in light of everything that has happened

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he's expressed a lot of frustration with peter thiel basically

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public basically funding this lawsuit

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as a way to um

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i think i forget i was reading some article about it but the quote from him

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was something to the effect don't quote me on this that's a quote of a quote

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that's not an accurate quote but sick um

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so the so something to the effect of that it's not vengeance but it's more of

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like a cautionary sort of like it's more of a deterrent i

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think was some something close to the word that was used um

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against publishing articles that are

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basic that basically amount to bullying so that was that was sort of how he

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interpreted the hulk hogan article where this sort of this individual was being

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bullied by a publication that uh published an article and indeed a sex

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tape video of him um

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banging to use the term that the kids use these days i think uh a friend's

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wife did they say that yeah banging still a

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thing still a thing really you got to throw

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that in at me yeah i guess that's still a thing if you're an old man well like

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how long has banging been around for i don't know a long time i'm sure my dad

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is like well versed with that term the term or

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what are we talking about i'm here so probably

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both just being honest it's almost father's day you got nine days to figure

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it out to figure out if he's your father or

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well maybe that could that could be the situation

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okay so luke's parents aside and they're

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whatever they don't still watch wancho do they

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they probably do oh that's a shame hi mom and dad

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um so it'll be a court supervised auction

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and uh basically the the lawsuit one way or the

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other will have to be resolved before nick uh before excuse me zif davis is

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gonna have any interest in in taking

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uh taking possession of it and yeah that's basically how it went down

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um would this make you think twice about

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publishing a sex tape on Linus tech tips

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why why why would we publish a sex tape online i i didn't say we i said you so

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we should okay no we should do this but we should do it with like uh like

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computer components

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oh man we should like make a fake hulk

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hogan

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no i want and have it water cool someone

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else's computer i want no party i want no part of any of this

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i just want we've got people asking for us to review a sex bot

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okay that's nice talking about our robots let's talk aaron does our robots

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yeah but taryn wouldn't know what to do with the sex

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so let's talk let's talk seriously again for a minute

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would you do an objective review

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of a sex robot

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uh okay i mean we'd have to be careful what we show in b-roll and not in b-roll

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but would you would you benchmark it and host the video i think i think like

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the the the journalistic side of me is like yeah and then there's like i'm in a

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relationship no so but what if the i think is it if it's a

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robot probably is it like because i mean they're not that

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sophisticated at this point yeah at this point i think basically

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they just do pre-programming you are attempting to very because this this

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ties into another conversation which is like

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is porn okay while you're in a relationship and this is like stuff you

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need to decide in your relationship yeah i'm not saying as a general statement i

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mean with you and your partner you need to do this yes is porn okay and then on

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top of that is vr porn okay because they're actually pretty different

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right yeah vr porn is very much putting you in that scenario yeah with like

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like uh directional audio so you feel like you're there and like if the

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person's talking to you you can hear where it's coming from like all that like

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crazy stuff which is like on another level and then you're stepping up again

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you think so i think each one of those will reduce the amount of people that

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are okay you don't think actually i

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i would i would argue i would argue the other way so i think porn is where it is

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so let's establish that porn is a bass line okay and you know your bass line

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could be it's like super okay and mine could be it's super not okay or the other way around whatever doesn't matter

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let's call two-dimensional porn the bass line sure and let's talk like

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two-dimensional is like a screen let's talk let's talk like straight guy on

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girl if you're a straight person like like like vanilla porn

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like sure not like animals or whatever because i wasn't really okay like i'm

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thinking like two two-dimensional like just kind of vanilla porn

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whatever fits in your preferences yeah like whatever would be vanilla for you

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everyone's vanilla can be a little different you know chocolate strawberry

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vanilla we're talking vanilla okay so that's our baseline okay i would make

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the argument that a robot is actually less akin to

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a real life sexual experience

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than i see we are coming from with that but you also have problems where and

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certainly less than uh than toy assisted vr

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toy assisted vr is way up there um with the robot though

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you are directly trying to replace the person

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in the actions that they do and it is possible to get somewhat

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emotionally attached to a robot

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so like you are actually attempting to replace the functionality of the partner

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yeah which is also why vr toy assisted would

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probably would that top the robot for you i don't

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know they're both like so these are both like no zone for you

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this is really awkward uh well remember we're talking when you're

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in a relationship and remember your no zone can be sort of what you're

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comfortable with someone else engaging in while you're in a

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relationship like it goes as a two-way street yeah yeah

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so are both of those gray area at the very least to say

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okay

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okay interesting see i

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how did we get here i don't know

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but i i i wholly disagree okay i think that

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the robot and then okay i and i'm saying inanimate object i

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understand that not all of them are completely inanimate

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um some of them like blink and stuff oh okay yeah yeah um but i would make the

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argument that an inanimate object is

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less like a real experience than an actor

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on a screen uh

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but it's not happening directly to you

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that's true but nothing's happening to you i mean

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let's face it you're doing all the work in either scenario that might be true in relationships as

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well though wow shots fired

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not even sorry to hear that bro no not that's not true at all but i'm saying

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for some people that is a reality it's it's i'm sorry but like it is okay

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sure fair enough people are saying next topic and they're

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probably

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sony officially confirms the 4k ready playstation excellent original article

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here is from the verge

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confirms a ps4 console upgrade but it won't be at e3 which raises the question

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what will be at e3

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i don't know people were asking me like at computex

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and stuff they're like you've done e3 before you're going this year i was like nope like oh why not

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it's probably nothing well you know what's funny is we missed a year when e3 was

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like the [ __ ] yeah and then we were like okay we'll do it next year but the

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problem is that we're not in the console mindset like we don't even understand

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what qualifies as like a big e3 for console people because it's all just

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kind of e3 yeah so it's like yeah all the consoles are launching this year we

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don't go the next year all the consoles launched last year we go and it's like

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here's some game with games with some tessellation or something the problem is

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even if we did go the previous year

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it was probably just keynotes wasn't it just keynotes like i'm pretty

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sure we just watched those in the office i remember like talking to you because

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we were both scripting and half watching at the same time like we basically more

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or less went just virtually not to tie back to the previous

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conversation yeah i mean on that subject man i went to uh i think two keynotes

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yeah two keynotes at computex this year i went to one let's just not do them

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anymore yep they are the worst thing ever yep there is nothing that i can

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learn in a keynote that i can't learn and like

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yeah i don't know the the most valuable thing i think we could do from a keynote

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um and the the keynote that i went to was an NVIDIA one and what i did was i

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just periscope live streamed the whole thing which like

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i did that because i don't think it was being live streamed right the the stream

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that i did uh twitch stream of at the NVIDIA event when i didn't have a table

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and was like crammed in these tiny freaking seats in the back trying to hold my camera up while supporting my

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laptop was horrible i don't even really know why people watched i tried to like

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i tried to even get reactions from like jay and the other people that are sitting beside me and i'd turn the

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camera in the HDMI cable

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because it wasn't a very stable connection um but there's like live

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tweets but then we don't have to be there in order to do that right

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i don't know um

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so this is actually this is actually sort of an ongoing

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and ongoing scandal so i don't know if some of you have seen it but sourcefed

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is claiming that google manipulated search results

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in favor of hillary clinton it's actually a very well constructed video a

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very compelling sounding argument for uh for how big this has become i'm

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surprised it doesn't have way more views yeah it's actually only got about a

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quarter million views let's go ahead and pop that up on our screen here so they

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basically say okay look uh here's the popularity of

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certain um search terms for example hillary

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clinton indictment and hillary clinton india you can see indictment is much

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more popular than india according to google's own interest over

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time and they point out that when you actually enter

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hillary clinton end into google search

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it comes up with indiana india independent voters

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indiana campaign absolutely nothing about indictment as a suggested search

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with the argument being made by sourcefed being that

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you should be suggesting search topics based on

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autocomplete based on what people are actually searching for that would start

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with those letters um

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so this is this is very quickly turning into and they they also showed like i

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think it was yahoo and bing typing the exact same thing in and yahoo being

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reacted the exact same way that they would have expected yeah so indictment

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was the top uh suggested with that said i wouldn't use bing search as an

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indication of what is relevant necessarily although they make again a

00:19:41.520 --> 00:19:47.440
good point it's very well constructed video actually i watched the whole thing

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start to finish i was like wow that was very cogent um anyway

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so they make the argument that if there's three people in a room and i

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think something along don't quote me on this again three people in a room and

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one of them says i'm in a room and two of them say i'm on the room's on fire

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you know you should probably go with the two people who are saying hey the room's

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on fire and not the person that it's what's relevant information i guess is

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the point um now the defense up on the verge already

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google denies oh and there's there's like there's like a whole like um

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illuminati thing about how um larry page

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uh funded or owns a company well i think

00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:29.520
that princeton campaign no no it's true yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean to be

00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:34.880
clear i'm not saying illuminati confirmed like you know uh

00:20:32.320 --> 00:20:38.320
mr peanut on the peanut butter jar the american not the illuminati yeah it's

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this like tech based company that larry page is funding that

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is yes helping hillary's campaign that is being

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uh contracted by hillary's campaign something to the tune of 177 177 000 in

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a quarter which sounds like a lot of money to normal people like you and me

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but this is important right now in the context of larry page that means nothing

00:21:01.520 --> 00:21:08.240
he probably keeps that amount of money in every pair of shoes in the event that

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he gets robbed and he needs to you know grab some money for walking around out

00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:19.760
of somewhere that the robber wouldn't have gotten it from yeah that sucks sorry to hear that

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and we're back illuminati freaking confirmed you were

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waiting on that the whole time rachel hillary clinton showed up outside the

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door of our warehouse walked in with like

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armed guards behind her dressed in black and told us well not us told our

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computer yeah you blue screen right now

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or we are not walking out of this place

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and it did it happened josh was there

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okay so the last thing happened our computer blue screen i'm not really sure

00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:57.600
what the deal was with that something to do with attempted switch from dpc which

00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:02.480
is something to do with maybe a real tech wireless driver we don't have any real tech devices in this computer mini

00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:07.440
card it seems to be like one of those catch all don't we don't have any of those that's

00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:12.240
that's for sure so let's get back into um into what i was talking about what

00:22:09.919 --> 00:22:18.240
the hell was i talking about before okay um so right uh medium dog

00:22:15.919 --> 00:22:23.200
where was i going with this okay so the verge has uh the verge has a good uh

00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:27.280
follow-up that basically says google denies altering search suggestions for

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hillary clinton and points out that some of the examples that sourcefed cites for

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example hillary clinton cri doesn't come

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up with crime in fact apply across the board

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google avoids auto-completing the word

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crime or criminal um so that they can avoid

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making disparaging comments about people who

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may not have actually committed a crime or may not be a criminal in fact they do

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so they've pointed this out this is uh who's this guy matt cutts

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is the currently on leave from his position as head of google's web spam

00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:06.400
team um

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so they do this for everyone else including people that have actually been

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charged and convicted very interesting um he also points out

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that those looking for negative stories don't necessarily type hillary's last

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name they actually mostly search apparently for i don't entirely know why

00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:30.480
he would know this if he's on leave no you might still well you might still

00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:34.799
know enough about the inner workings to come up with some examples that

00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:38.880
demonstrate the opposition okay the first part totally the the part

00:23:37.520 --> 00:23:42.799
where they're all looking for hillary not hillary clinton is like what well

00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:47.840
you can look for that though um like you can search for relevance like you can

00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:50.480
search for uh yeah yes they did people were searching for

00:23:49.600 --> 00:23:56.240
that so basically uh oh and so another thing

00:23:54.159 --> 00:23:59.840
they pointed out is that many results pop in when you type in donald trump

00:23:57.679 --> 00:24:03.679
racist but results also appear for hillary clinton racist

00:24:01.679 --> 00:24:08.960
um so there you go

00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:11.919
so basically the conclusion in the verge article here is they're likely trying to

00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:17.120
walk the line between providing as much information as they can and not stepping

00:24:14.080 --> 00:24:18.960
into a sort of gray legal area by say

00:24:17.120 --> 00:24:24.080
suggesting that someone could be a criminal um

00:24:21.840 --> 00:24:26.640
so here's a state a spokesperson's full statement on the matter google

00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:30.480
autocomplete does not favor any candidate or cause claims to the

00:24:28.159 --> 00:24:35.279
contrary simply misunderstand how you type in donald trump rac yeah it comes

00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:40.720
with with donald trump racist if you type hillary clinton rac it comes with

00:24:37.600 --> 00:24:43.120
rachel race issue rachel maddow race

00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:50.000
2016. oh that's interesting i wonder if that is a regional thing as well

00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:53.679
yeah donald trump rac racist snl racist commercial racist articles racist rally

00:24:52.080 --> 00:24:57.919
it's all racist i don't know that racism is necessarily

00:24:55.679 --> 00:25:01.039
a hot button topic for hillary i doubt it

00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:04.240
i'm just saying that was said in there yeah that's very interesting doesn't

00:25:02.320 --> 00:25:07.520
seem true so here hold on we should we should probably do the demo live if

00:25:05.760 --> 00:25:13.679
we're going to if we're going to talk about this so hillary i don't even necessarily know

00:25:11.760 --> 00:25:17.360
because like so there you have it uh so racist costume is my

00:25:15.919 --> 00:25:20.720
sixth fifth fifth suggestion am i right mine only

00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:24.960
goes down to four browser thing probably oh no no i'm

00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:27.919
actually on the resolution thing or like uh

00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:31.600
zoom things i'm actually on google's website too you're doing the browser

00:25:29.840 --> 00:25:37.679
suggestions okay so there you go oh okay so

00:25:35.600 --> 00:25:41.120
i don't know yep no look it so that's a browser thing yep because

00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:44.480
i'm in firefox here in chrome oh yeah okay there you go so

00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:48.000
age email young news

00:25:48.159 --> 00:25:52.880
news twitter wife donald glover okay let's help it out a

00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:59.120
little bit news twitter wife net worth so there's nothing particularly incriminating there

00:25:56.320 --> 00:26:04.880
but it looks like as you continue to dig in and find examples you can find stuff

00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:10.320
that um appears to be a bit of an issue so there

00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:13.840
is an article over on medium.com that appears to have been done without help

00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:18.240
from google so here we go um search trends are a

00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:20.960
significant factor in how autocomplete works this is the entire basis for

00:26:19.760 --> 00:26:27.360
sourcefriends claiming yet according to their logic google must be favoring donald trump as well because they've got

00:26:25.120 --> 00:26:32.880
donald trump r a completely leaves out the quite common

00:26:29.919 --> 00:26:36.799
search term donald trump rape um which was the whole alleged thing with uh

00:26:35.360 --> 00:26:40.720
ivana trump where she eventually

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:46.080
took back the statement but she claimed that he raped her so i guess i didn't

00:26:43.760 --> 00:26:50.080
follow that closely enough yeah so donald trump l.a

00:26:48.320 --> 00:26:54.480
okay so we've got donald trump lawsuits and donald trump laughing what is it

00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:57.840
coming with latest latest news latest last night laughing

00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:02.000
so at this point you're probably thinking this is a great point at this point

00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:07.279
you're probably thinking to yourself whoa you're just choosing random words and searching them and he's like yeah

00:27:05.840 --> 00:27:12.320
that's right i'm doing exactly that totally makes sense yeah which does make

00:27:09.760 --> 00:27:15.200
sense so i can definitely see how source fed came to the conclusion

00:27:13.919 --> 00:27:18.400
they did because you right there sitting there were like

00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:22.000
well hold on a second what about this this conflicts with that remembering

00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:25.760
that we're in a different region and i know that google does

00:27:23.840 --> 00:27:29.520
specifically target suggestions region by region

00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:33.600
so outside of america you might get very very different types of suggestions

00:27:32.159 --> 00:27:36.159
to do with any of the presidential candidates

00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:44.960
versus someone who's actually in the u.s so do i believe

00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:46.880
that google is 100 percent ethical

00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:50.559
no do i believe that they would be stupid

00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:54.640
it might not be a targeted thing to do something this blatant right um

00:27:53.919 --> 00:28:00.320
no i i i think this would be really dumb

00:27:57.679 --> 00:28:04.159
i also have a really hard time believing that hillary clinton is necessarily the

00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:07.600
candidate that like google as a whole would have decided is

00:28:06.159 --> 00:28:10.000
like ideal um

00:28:10.320 --> 00:28:19.120
so i mean she seems pretty impressionable better than trump i guess

00:28:16.399 --> 00:28:23.200
that's such a yeah that's a can of worms actually this

00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:30.000
is interesting i had um sort of changing topics i had dinner uh at computex with

00:28:27.120 --> 00:28:33.200
uh like a self-professed like die-hard trump supporter

00:28:31.360 --> 00:28:37.200
and um basically the conversation went

00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:40.640
something along the lines of people are like where's the tech talk

00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:44.000
this is tech by the way just saying the google stuff yeah the google stuff and

00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:47.120
what i'm telling you about right now was a conversation i had at computex tech is

00:28:46.080 --> 00:28:53.520
right in there um so basically he he like was just out of

00:28:51.520 --> 00:28:57.840
absolutely nowhere we were talking about something to do with AMD's strategy for

00:28:55.919 --> 00:29:00.799
fire pro cards and distribution channels or something like a legitimately tech

00:28:59.600 --> 00:29:04.799
conversation and then he goes something something

00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:10.000
something you know my boy donald something something something and

00:29:07.840 --> 00:29:13.919
and then he's like well and we're like oh okay so you're a trump

00:29:11.679 --> 00:29:18.320
supporter like as if it was not obvious at that point and he goes yeah you know

00:29:15.679 --> 00:29:23.039
blah blah blah blah blah of course i am why what are you like well canadian he's

00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:26.880
like oh you're socialist then like well you know what a

00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:29.120
not necessarily for one thing

00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:34.720
and b um who cares because at a business

00:29:33.120 --> 00:29:38.720
dinner the last thing that i'm gonna be talking about is socialism for donald

00:29:37.679 --> 00:29:43.679
trump that is like completely inappropriate

00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:48.559
so so yeah but uh hey he's not afraid to speak his

00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:52.799
mind just like his boy donald it's all good

00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:56.559
um however inappropriate or appropriate it

00:29:54.720 --> 00:30:01.679
might be weren't we supposed to be talking about the 4k ready playstation

00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:06.240
yeah i have no no idea how we got how did we i think he

00:30:03.919 --> 00:30:10.960
said no i think we stopped i think we were done no no we never made it past

00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:16.000
the headline we talked about e3 and go no because because i saw this over here

00:30:13.600 --> 00:30:18.960
and i realized it wasn't on the dock yeah we never got no i'm going through

00:30:17.600 --> 00:30:25.360
what we did talk about we talked about three we talked about going to e3 and why we don't anymore we suck at that so

00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:30.320
we said it won't be at e3 which was in the headline yeah and then we're like we

00:30:27.520 --> 00:30:34.799
won't be at e3 either yeah okay so let's talk about the playstation 4 console

00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:39.039
upgrade to be clear there doesn't seem to be any indication that this is an

00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:43.039
upgrade in the sense that you can upgrade your existing console it looks

00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:48.080
like there will be an upgraded playstation 4 that will include a faster

00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:52.240
processor 4k resolutions oh man i got

00:30:48.080 --> 00:30:54.799
such a kick out of the endless

00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:59.840
endless playstation fanboys back at the time of launch that were like yeah 4k

00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:04.799
support's coming actually it's not actually it isn't because

00:31:02.159 --> 00:31:08.480
because actually the HDMI port on the playstation is not going to output it so

00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:12.399
pay for one so there's that um

00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:17.279
yeah so technically 4k sport is coming to places yes if you buy a completely

00:31:14.159 --> 00:31:20.080
new device just not yours um i'll offer

00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:25.840
4k resolution support and improved graphics presumably it will also have

00:31:22.320 --> 00:31:29.120
support for playstation vr although i

00:31:25.840 --> 00:31:30.960
don't know if playstation vr is going to

00:31:29.120 --> 00:31:35.360
be supported on the existing playstation 4 do you know this no

00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:40.159
i don't know this hmm that has been an interesting why are your things like off

00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.159
your screen that's weird

00:31:40.320 --> 00:31:47.840
i don't know if that's a known thing on

00:31:44.080 --> 00:31:50.640
ps4 yeah i i actually i actually don't

00:31:47.840 --> 00:31:55.519
know so 500 headband display blah blah blah blah blah blah upcoming virtual

00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:59.440
reality headset for the ps4 console but what's interesting is that the only

00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:02.559
confirmation that we have is that there will be an upgraded ps4

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:07.840
they're not actually calling it something else yeah so if they said ps

00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:10.880
vr is for the playstation 4. i mean if this is like a

00:32:09.120 --> 00:32:14.960
oh man because there has been some confusing stuff that's gone on in

00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:18.799
console generations before you know mini versions and you know cooler running

00:32:17.360 --> 00:32:22.720
versions and the halo versions and all kinds of

00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:26.640
different different stuff that actually in some cases can have very different

00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:30.000
hardware and software limitations i mean early playstation 3's had backwards

00:32:28.399 --> 00:32:33.440
compatibility with hardware you can install Linux on them they're actually

00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:36.880
still really cool and then that completely got kicked out those things

00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:41.279
are worth money on ebay they are because you can make them computers like there's

00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:44.880
a isn't there like a military data center or server or something

00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:48.720
that's playstation threes i think it's like defunct now but i'm sure but like

00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:52.240
okay it was a thing it wasn't there i mean um it might have just been

00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:56.960
experimental that's also very possible anyway the console will be priced higher

00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:02.480
than the current 350 for the existing ps4 and it will be better um so there

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00:36:02.160 --> 00:36:08.880
bits for the screw these are actually this is like an old kit too but we've got like tons of ip it's funny the old

00:36:07.520 --> 00:36:12.800
kit is the one we have here because i took the new one home it's got more

00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:16.720
driver bits it's the one i was looking for yeah better spudgers it's going with

00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:20.160
the wrong ones more suction cups it's just generally like super awesome uh

00:36:18.720 --> 00:36:25.440
we've ordered replacement parts from them for putting the imac uh the 5k imac

00:36:23.680 --> 00:36:28.560
that i reviewed back together after i opened it up in order to take it apart

00:36:27.359 --> 00:36:33.359
for some reason why did i think that was a good idea anyway i took it apart and put it back

00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:37.440
together and all their tools are backed by ifixit's lifetime warranty the

00:36:35.680 --> 00:36:42.640
protect tool kit the good one that i can't show you because it's at home is

00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:45.280
69.95 and the best part is you can get

00:36:42.640 --> 00:36:48.960
10 bucks oh no ah my talking points are wrong

00:36:46.240 --> 00:36:52.560
five bucks off on a purchase of 10 or more my talking points are exactly

00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:58.400
correct i just saw the 10 and i jumped the gun there speaking of jumping the

00:36:56.160 --> 00:36:58.400
gun

00:36:59.200 --> 00:37:06.359
i have a link to the cooler master store here that i am supposed to follow

00:37:03.520 --> 00:37:13.680
ah yes my friends so cm store dash usa.com has all kinds of interesting

00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:15.920
stuff everything from cooler master and

00:37:13.680 --> 00:37:20.480
uh basically yes everything from cooler masters their free-form modular stuff

00:37:18.640 --> 00:37:24.560
expected to find that like if you saw the cooler master uh video

00:37:23.359 --> 00:37:30.079
from uh computex you would have seen some of these things already so those things are

00:37:27.680 --> 00:37:33.839
made by primo chill actually yeah so these are a little like you can change

00:37:31.839 --> 00:37:40.160
the look of the front of your case and the uh power supply basement area to

00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:41.280
this like crazy blue thing if that's not

00:37:40.160 --> 00:37:46.240
your style there's a bunch of other stuff you can do you can get official stuff from

00:37:44.240 --> 00:37:50.800
cooler master too which includes like the this crazy handle on the top of the

00:37:48.240 --> 00:37:55.760
case this actually ties in really well to the thing that i was criticizing

00:37:52.880 --> 00:38:00.000
about ASUS concept pc that they had at the show that that one that all

00:37:57.839 --> 00:38:04.480
assembles with hard pcbs um and the problem is that

00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:09.200
they were like oh yeah we'll have like modular upgrades for

00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:13.280
uh rear i o so that an older motherboard could have like usb type c and you would

00:38:11.359 --> 00:38:17.040
just have this module that you slot in and i was like well by the time the

00:38:14.720 --> 00:38:20.400
distributor and the retailer and the shipper remember you have to get it to a

00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:23.599
distributor then to a retailer then to the customer all take their cut these

00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:28.800
things are going to be inordinately expensive you might as well just buy a new motherboard you need a controller

00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:31.680
for that too um the controller is actually in the like upgrade module

00:38:30.640 --> 00:38:35.760
that's what i'm saying so it's gonna be really expensive yeah so so well okay so

00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:39.440
the product manager for the claims it wasn't but i was like yes it is sure

00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:44.240
um so cooler master buy stocking because

00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:49.920
that's been a big problem for cases too i bought a windowed side panel for an

00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:53.599
antec p160 so that was

00:38:51.680 --> 00:38:59.680
12 years ago um anyway so i did that it took like five

00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:03.119
weeks to special order because there was like

00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:07.440
one in the entire country and that's the way it was then and that's the way it is

00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:11.520
today when it comes to accessories for computer cases

00:39:09.040 --> 00:39:14.160
because you just can't stock enough of them

00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:18.000
in all the right distribution areas in order to have timely fulfillment of

00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:20.640
those orders be possible and that was a windowed side panel and it's a

00:39:19.359 --> 00:39:26.800
relatively common thing we're not talking like like a freaking you know

00:39:23.839 --> 00:39:31.440
like slashed like front panel thing so i actually see cooler masters

00:39:29.359 --> 00:39:35.280
cooler master store as an interesting solution to that

00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:39.760
problem because cooler master themselves is handling this doesn't have to stock a

00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:44.240
ton of them yeah they can just say okay stock five

00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:48.560
is they buy the things from the makers and then resell them too which is pretty

00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:52.000
cool so you know that like cooler master is tracking their

00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:55.119
stock and like all this other kind of stuff which actually makes sense

00:39:53.760 --> 00:40:00.560
so i think it's pretty cool so the other thing we're supposed to mention i guess is the um

00:39:58.640 --> 00:40:06.000
the master case maker 5. so make it what you will i know luke you

00:40:03.359 --> 00:40:09.839
especially had a lot of skepticism in your brain and in your heart and

00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:13.520
probably in your pants about cooler masters whole maker branding and there

00:40:11.680 --> 00:40:16.320
are still some products here we're still doing a cooler master sponsor spot but

00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:19.440
i'm not afraid to criticize them during a sponsor spot there are still some

00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:23.520
cooler master products that i look at the maker branding and i just go like

00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:27.440
what exactly is maker about this but i've got to give them the vision for

00:40:25.520 --> 00:40:30.240
the case at ces they announced that they were going to have this store here we

00:40:28.720 --> 00:40:35.440
are six months later they have products in it so they are working on it they are

00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:38.800
trying to make it actually like maker in some way yeah i don't

00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:45.359
understand how like uh beautiful honestly looking power

00:40:41.359 --> 00:40:46.960
supply uh happens to be maker but

00:40:45.359 --> 00:40:50.560
i do appreciate that they did follow up on the store thing i i like it probably

00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:55.839
would have helped if i said it in the original video but the first time i covered their free-form modular system

00:40:53.520 --> 00:40:59.680
stuff yeah was last computex not the most recent one

00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:04.480
and i gave them like a year or whatever and i talked to you about it not that

00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:08.319
long ago yeah going where is that where is that store thing because it's not

00:41:06.160 --> 00:41:12.000
here yet and then it showed up like three weeks or a month before computex

00:41:10.640 --> 00:41:16.640
or something and i was like all right okay okay all right you made it not by

00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:23.280
much but you made it but we'll give you that one cooler master you made it get

00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:24.560
it yep you liked it i got it

00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.359
beautiful yep make it beautiful

00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:33.200
make her it beautiful all right let's talk about beautiful community

00:41:31.359 --> 00:41:39.119
interaction the original article here is from engadget

00:41:35.200 --> 00:41:42.160
riot used league of legends chat logs

00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:44.319
to spot bad staff

00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:48.319
apparently looking closely at what employees say online it's a good thing i

00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:53.200
don't do that or ed probably wouldn't have a job anymore

00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:58.720
so riot gaines looked at employees chat logs and found a correlation between

00:41:55.200 --> 00:42:00.240
their behavior in and out of game they

00:41:58.720 --> 00:42:06.240
worked with google's work staff analytics team and picked through the last 12 months

00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:11.040
of each staffers league of legends gameplay records and

00:42:08.560 --> 00:42:16.640
chat logs they found that a quarter of the people they had fired in the last

00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:20.000
year so they had fired prior to knowing

00:42:16.640 --> 00:42:22.400
had shown unusually high levels of toxic

00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:26.640
behavior in game armed with this information riot used it

00:42:24.319 --> 00:42:31.599
to proactively address the problem with remaining staff so they singled out 30

00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:34.720
employees all of whom were actually fairly new to the company and gave them

00:42:33.200 --> 00:42:38.079
two options those who got a stern warning and those

00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:41.119
who should be let go and then during the meetings many

00:42:39.520 --> 00:42:45.280
employees expressed regret at how they behaved in game they received essays

00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:50.720
from employees vowing to change their ways and the report ended with riot's

00:42:48.720 --> 00:42:56.960
intention to request league of legends user names from all future hires for

00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.960
similar analysis

00:42:57.200 --> 00:43:06.000
so yeah like social media investigation

00:43:03.040 --> 00:43:11.359
by potential and current employers just got real very very real like i

00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:15.119
wouldn't be and you know what it's it's funny because if you'd asked me

00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:20.800
yesterday what is social media i would have said i

00:43:17.839 --> 00:43:23.760
don't know twitter facebook youtube um and a lot of people don't even think

00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:27.359
of youtube like i only think of it because youtube is my primary social

00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:32.319
platform i think a lot of people don't think yeah yeah i guess because you yeah okay a lot

00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:37.920
of people watch a video i mean what percentage leave a comment under the video it feels more like a tv viewing

00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:41.599
thing yes instead of a inter communication thing like twitter and

00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:46.720
facebook but it absolutely is it is a social media platform um i'm not saying

00:43:44.720 --> 00:43:49.520
i would not have said the game i played last saturday night

00:43:53.520 --> 00:43:59.280
so let's get a straw poll going on here like

00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:04.000
oh straw poll is what riot did okay

00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:10.720
oh and i'm not putting in turnip because

00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:14.880
i've this is like the requesting kind of a big deal here these are names

00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:19.760
seems a little weird does it not for future employees

00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:26.960
okay so before we before we get into the answer to that question um

00:44:22.560 --> 00:44:30.319
let me say this when i applied at ncix

00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:32.720
i actually went out of my way to include

00:44:30.319 --> 00:44:37.280
my forum username yeah so they could review

00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:42.400
my posting history on their site i'm not going to say who but uh certain people

00:44:40.160 --> 00:44:46.160
on like the forum and certain people that i know through twitch and stuff

00:44:43.839 --> 00:44:49.839
yeah have included their handles for the line of sections forum for

00:44:48.160 --> 00:44:54.319
certain jobs that they have gotten and that has been part of it so

00:44:52.560 --> 00:44:59.760
other jobs yeah i actually do totally does one of them

00:44:56.640 --> 00:44:59.760
have the initial cc

00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:04.400
fairly prominent member real initials oh

00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:09.599
uh i'll talk to you later oh okay okay i'm just i'm idly curious yeah yeah i'll

00:45:08.240 --> 00:45:13.200
talk to you later i have no problem telling you but i'll talk to you okay um

00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:18.480
and like it's worked and it's helped them and i understand the voluntary

00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:21.040
giving of those things yeah and like

00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:25.839
having riot be like it's a good thing if you give us your username

00:45:23.200 --> 00:45:29.440
is probably i just i think it's because aren't there certain legal requirements

00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:35.680
but what you're even allowed to ask you can spin it both i i sincerely doubt

00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:37.520
a gamer handle is even covered but i

00:45:35.680 --> 00:45:41.359
could see ryan spending it both ways because they could spin it to every

00:45:39.359 --> 00:45:46.400
candidate this way if you give us your league of legends

00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:47.680
username it enables us to help you the

00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:50.319
good candidate get a job

00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:56.720
but the implication the implied

00:45:53.839 --> 00:46:00.480
back side of that story is that it helps weed out potential

00:45:58.839 --> 00:46:04.800
jackasses during the interview process so so some

00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:08.640
questions that you can't ask is what is your religious affiliation are you

00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:12.839
pregnant what is your political affiliation what is your race color or

00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:18.079
ethnicity although if you're in an interview uh anyways sometimes it's not

00:46:15.680 --> 00:46:21.520
obvious sure most people think my wife is uh i think i get a lot of people

00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:25.920
saying she might be filipina but she's not

00:46:23.040 --> 00:46:30.720
sure um that's a good point how old are you are you disabled are you married do

00:46:27.680 --> 00:46:33.760
you have uh children or plan to uh are

00:46:30.720 --> 00:46:35.920
you in debt do you drink or smoke

00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:42.720
socially socially i guess um

00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:46.240
so in that social drink so in that sense

00:46:42.720 --> 00:46:48.000
if riot asks for your username

00:46:46.240 --> 00:46:51.280
they because they could very indirectly get the answer to like everything there

00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:56.480
they could get the answers to pretty much all of that especially because that

00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:57.839
probably includes whispers

00:46:56.480 --> 00:47:00.880
what if it doesn't though let's say it doesn't let's assume let's assume let's

00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:05.599
let's give the benefit of the doubt let's say it doesn't include whispers right okay so let's say it only includes

00:47:04.319 --> 00:47:11.760
public chat but by the time you post that information on

00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:15.359
a public server have you forfeiting yeah have you have

00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:19.280
you put that information on your forehead no because there's also implied

00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:22.720
anonymity through your username you're not playing

00:47:21.520 --> 00:47:27.119
as Linus sebastian right you're playing as

00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:30.160
whatever i do because i give up but sure yeah but like okay you know what i mean

00:47:28.720 --> 00:47:34.800
though yeah yeah yeah i give up too um i don't actually use my

00:47:33.359 --> 00:47:39.680
real name but yeah i give up uh i twitch stream what was i

00:47:37.040 --> 00:47:42.640
supposed to do um but yeah like i don't know

00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:47.359
okay so let's let's hear from the viewers this is split pretty much right

00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:51.200
down the middle i saw that we've got 53 percent of you saying it's okay

00:47:49.839 --> 00:47:54.720
riot has the right to know what you and you

00:47:53.680 --> 00:48:00.480
know what it might be in their eula somewhere riot has the right to know before you

00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:05.200
work for them that's our neighbor what you posted on their privately owned

00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:11.280
servers which is an interesting point

00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:13.040
riot probably has terms in their eula

00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:16.800
that entitle them to ownership of everything that gets posted in much the

00:48:14.720 --> 00:48:19.760
same way that linustechtips.com owns anything you post on it sure

00:48:18.640 --> 00:48:27.440
through the end user license it doesn't have to do with you forfeiting the information of your user name right but

00:48:23.359 --> 00:48:29.520
you knowingly and willingly posted that

00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:33.520
with maybe you figured you were anonymous but you weren't according to

00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:37.200
the end user license agreement you willingly and knowingly posted that

00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:41.680
publicly yeah yeah but so it's still it's still

00:48:40.240 --> 00:48:44.800
not forfeiting your username because you could falsify your personal data that's

00:48:43.680 --> 00:48:48.480
true but if the eula

00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:52.319
says you're not allowed to do that euliss also don't hold up like ever

00:48:50.319 --> 00:48:56.800
that's true they don't but

00:48:54.400 --> 00:49:02.880
if riot's company policy is that all employees subject to termination if they

00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:06.880
fail to comply need to follow the eula but can you can you go around say

00:49:05.520 --> 00:49:11.119
if there was i'm going into three articles here yeah if that list of stuff

00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:16.559
that i just said included gamer tag for whatever reason

00:49:14.160 --> 00:49:19.920
would circumventing that by saying that they have to follow the eula is that

00:49:18.319 --> 00:49:23.920
legal i guess john and i don't think it comes down to

00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:28.800
legality or not legality because ultimately

00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:32.240
you can you can control what an employee

00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:33.359
posts on your privately owned servers as

00:49:32.240 --> 00:49:39.040
a company yeah it's not about control though this is reading the last 12 months right so

00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:42.720
going back and looking at it well ultimately because there could be a code

00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:46.880
of conduct within the company where you have to act a certain way yeah like

00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:49.920
costco has a code of ethics yeah they have like an entire handbook

00:49:48.240 --> 00:49:53.839
it's like this thick it's like here's uh you know here's the

00:49:51.839 --> 00:49:57.520
value up to which you can accept a dinner from someone here's this that

00:49:55.839 --> 00:50:03.119
that that that and that um you know you know what's funny is i have

00:50:01.359 --> 00:50:07.839
actually kind of talked myself into it

00:50:06.640 --> 00:50:14.079
you're also an employer no but even outside of that because

00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:18.559
while i because we've talked about this before yeah and

00:50:16.160 --> 00:50:20.400
i don't remember what stance i took but you know

00:50:19.520 --> 00:50:24.880
whatever we have uh to give some insight we have

00:50:23.200 --> 00:50:29.520
uh necessarily changed opinions but but

00:50:27.359 --> 00:50:34.160
added information to what we thought about a person that was going through an

00:50:31.200 --> 00:50:38.559
interview process with us by looking at their social media yes oh long time ago

00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:42.800
you were in on that did i was it was their twitter account yeah okay okay

00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:45.760
this was uh this was a long time ago did they twitter

00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:50.240
i think the twitter account was was given to us okay so it was given to us

00:50:47.680 --> 00:50:56.079
yeah okay but we clearly have no problem looking at social media for things now

00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:57.760
with that said i personally don't really

00:50:56.079 --> 00:51:02.960
like this the reason why i don't really like this is because of the implied

00:51:00.319 --> 00:51:06.960
anonymity of your username if you post something on twitter or to a public

00:51:05.520 --> 00:51:11.040
facebook account that is very searchable and is directly

00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.160
attached to your name i think of course that's searchable by your employer i

00:51:12.640 --> 00:51:19.040
don't think you have to forfeit those accounts but they're under your name and

00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:21.040
are searchable so whatever

00:51:20.240 --> 00:51:26.720
so i don't like

00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:30.800
the idea of creeping something that wasn't provided

00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:34.480
yeah especially if it's a third party so if

00:51:32.720 --> 00:51:38.160
riot was saying you have to provide your facebook username because i've heard of

00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:42.240
employers demanding this you have to you have to

00:51:40.240 --> 00:51:47.119
you know what's your facebook yeah and we're we intend to look at it like if

00:51:44.319 --> 00:51:52.319
they demanded that that's one thing and that to me is actually very different

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:55.359
from demanding to know what potential employees or current employees because

00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:00.319
they only did this for current employees and then the potential employees is moving forward now so they did this for

00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:03.440
current employees yeah what your current employees are posting on a server you

00:52:02.160 --> 00:52:09.200
own yeah i was just going to say that's also a different thing because it's their platform and i could definitely

00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:13.440
see this this might change my opinion a little bit because it's their platform

00:52:12.319 --> 00:52:18.960
that's like how they are treading on your turf yeah

00:52:16.640 --> 00:52:23.119
it's how they are representing your brand i was applying this to like any

00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:26.079
gamer tag right so like if you played wow

00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:29.440
and league of legends they would want to have both of them you

00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:32.480
know what i mean yeah but that's what they don't have no i know because they

00:52:31.200 --> 00:52:39.920
wouldn't have the ability to do that anyway right so but i think that would be more wrong

00:52:37.359 --> 00:52:42.960
anyway yeah i think so too i think what an important the treading on your turf

00:52:41.520 --> 00:52:46.800
wanting to know your stuff for your own servers i actually totally see that if

00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:50.559
if someone wanted to apply to work here and we're on the forum i would want to know what their account was and would

00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:56.000
want to see how they conducted themselves on the forum i wouldn't ask for their other accounts

00:52:53.839 --> 00:53:00.880
so i actually i guess i do agree with it i just don't agree with it as a a gamer

00:52:58.160 --> 00:53:05.920
tag in general a gamertag in general feels like it should just be

00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:07.839
this is my escape is in land yeah that's that's

00:53:06.640 --> 00:53:11.839
what i was trying to defend it's your anonymous area you should just sometimes

00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:16.640
you role play that's the thing roleplaying is a thing

00:53:14.160 --> 00:53:20.720
how i behave as a gamer tag shouldn't

00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:24.880
necessarily be the be all and end all of someone how of how someone interprets

00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:28.640
who i am and what i am as a person but i also see where riot's coming from which

00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:33.520
is if you're role-playing an [ __ ]

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to the community of our paying customers who you're trying to apply for and will

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be representing in some way or another yeah who you're ultimately serving at

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your like freaking day job that you're paying for riot is gonna want someone

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who uh like compared to a negative person they

00:53:47.680 --> 00:53:54.160
would want someone who's trying to make the community better because that's the

00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:59.119
exact same kind of deal as the person in the interview

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uh who is actively trying to find ways

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and offer up ways that they could improve the company and

00:54:03.040 --> 00:54:07.839
who have pre-thought about these things like like the

00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:13.280
the standard thing like if you're applying for a social media position being like oh i have these

00:54:11.520 --> 00:54:16.240
ideas for improving your social media situation because i've already looked at

00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:20.640
what you're doing and analyze what you're doing and thought about it and tried these practices and whatnot that's

00:54:19.200 --> 00:54:25.040
a very good thing to bring to that interview

00:54:22.640 --> 00:54:28.880
bringing to that interview that you obviously didn't care and are

00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:32.079
contributing to a toxic environment which place pokemon says someone was

00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:35.680
role-playing at me real hard in an overwatch match i played last night

00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:41.520
we're not saying that playing an [ __ ] is okay

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we're just saying that i think we specifically didn't yeah it

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might not necessarily be who you are as a person yeah

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um okay teamviewer confirms

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number of abused user accounts is

00:54:53.280 --> 00:55:01.599
significant uh the original article here is from bleepingcomputer.com

00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:07.760
they apologize but they still say they were not compromised which is something

00:55:03.839 --> 00:55:10.480
that has yet to be actually proven even

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though redditers and some blogs out there have

00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:16.400
offered up some evidence that looks fairly compelling to suggest that they

00:55:15.520 --> 00:55:23.119
were indeed compromised so uh what well they were

00:55:21.200 --> 00:55:28.319
definitely compromised the the question is whether or not team viewer

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was compromised like their records that that's their compromise yeah um but team

00:55:30.720 --> 00:55:38.160
viewer accounts were definitely kind we're definitely compromised so the

00:55:35.200 --> 00:55:42.480
suggested course of action it right now is to protect your accounts with secure

00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:46.000
passwords that are frequently changed have reliable anti-malware and security

00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:50.079
solutions in place at all times and enable two-factor authentication that's

00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:54.880
what teamviewer is suggesting um there's other stuff that you can do uh the way

00:55:51.839 --> 00:55:56.319
that i was once compromised well not not

00:55:54.880 --> 00:56:01.040
me personally i've never been compromised i'm not compromising

00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:07.440
not i don't know what i'm talking about anymore anyway the way the Linus tech tips channel was compromised was through

00:56:04.160 --> 00:56:09.040
a key logger um where i did not have

00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:12.400
two-factor authentication enabled because i don't remember if it was

00:56:10.640 --> 00:56:16.880
available yet i doubt it was back then it was a long time ago anyway um

00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:20.799
so through a key logger so one of the other ways that you can avoid getting

00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:24.480
your password sniped by a key logger is by having something like a password

00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:30.079
keeper like lastpass one thing that people are questioning is they're saying

00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:33.680
i had a two-step enabled and they still got in

00:56:32.240 --> 00:56:38.400
we don't have any confirmations of these things but hearing that is bad

00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:43.520
um one one thing that i'm gonna say is uh not to bring this up again but

00:56:41.200 --> 00:56:47.839
quite a while ago we had a breach on the last sections forum which super mega

00:56:45.680 --> 00:56:50.160
sucked and

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even if that wasn't our fault

00:56:54.079 --> 00:57:00.880
you still have to kind of be a little more proactive you should

00:56:58.319 --> 00:57:05.359
probably considering this as an exploit that's going against your software

00:57:03.520 --> 00:57:09.760
sure their breach isn't your fault but it's still an exploit that is widely

00:57:07.680 --> 00:57:15.359
significantly going against your software you should probably

00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:20.160
inform your users yep that this could be a problem suggest password changes

00:57:17.359 --> 00:57:25.040
password actively through email suggest two-step they have my email address one

00:57:22.799 --> 00:57:29.359
thing i can't reach was like busted our email reputation by making sure that we

00:57:27.359 --> 00:57:32.960
hammered emails out as fast as we could to all of our users yeah which actually

00:57:31.359 --> 00:57:36.960
hurt us in the longer term no one from hot no one at a microsoft domain got an

00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:42.240
email from us for months for a very long time including password reset emails yeah

00:57:40.319 --> 00:57:45.440
which was a nightmare thanks microsoft we were just trying to help people and

00:57:43.520 --> 00:57:49.119
then they ignored us for months with trying to get anyway anyways

00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:52.480
um so pretty much the way the attack works is

00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:56.559
people are breaking into your team viewer into your computer with

00:57:54.240 --> 00:58:01.440
teamviewer and then they are using presumably saved passwords on your

00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:05.520
computer please don't do that for example if you have a password

00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:08.960
keeper i don't understand why this isn't a default option but actually while

00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:14.720
you're in your next security audit can you run around to make sure everyone has it set to timeout after a very short

00:58:12.240 --> 00:58:18.960
period of time make sure your password keeper times out like for the love of

00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:22.880
everything that is valuable to you time out your password keeper the whole

00:58:21.200 --> 00:58:25.599
point so what they're doing is they're going into

00:58:24.240 --> 00:58:30.880
whether it's you're using chrome to save your password which by the way is really stupid um or firefox save your passwords

00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:35.599
which by the way is even super stupider because it saves it in plain text in a

00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:38.319
file in like data roaming local whatever it is

00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:41.440
um what was i oh yeah so then they're using

00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:45.920
your saved passwords to drain your bank account and your paypal

00:58:43.520 --> 00:58:52.319
which there's not a whole lot that um anyone can do about once it's done if

00:58:47.839 --> 00:58:52.319
the action was effectively done by you

00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:58.400
um right we've got a lot of topics left

00:58:56.079 --> 00:59:01.520
some of which i like really did want to uh

00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:05.119
talk about real quick here um

00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:07.520
where'd it go um

00:59:09.680 --> 00:59:13.359
uh where where did it go

00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:20.400
maybe up no i've had like looking forward i had something i really wanted to do like

00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:26.160
tied into the teamviewer one i had like a segway and everything and it's

00:59:21.680 --> 00:59:26.160
completely not in my mind anymore this

00:59:26.240 --> 00:59:34.160
no no it was cool this

00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:35.920
no that's cool too but not not as cool

00:59:34.160 --> 00:59:39.520
um oh well

00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:44.160
yeah oh this no oh that ties in yeah no i know it was

00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:48.559
like something else like it might not have actually oh this is a dock

00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:53.520
uh oh yeah wait no no this oh this apparently got rejected

00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:56.160
i don't know i don't know why uh why did that get rejected

00:59:55.119 --> 01:00:01.720
um i don't know i actually don't know

01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:08.880
um oh okay well i don't know why it was

01:00:07.200 --> 01:00:12.160
rejected so i'm not gonna go too far into it but uh

01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:16.960
twitch troll donates fifty thousand dollars to streamers paypal allegedly

01:00:14.319 --> 01:00:21.119
refuses to refund maybe we don't actually have confirmation on whether

01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:25.920
paypal is refunding it or not ah yeah okay nick nick is nick is filling it in

01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:28.640
for me conflicting reports okay so i was gonna try and tie that in well i think

01:00:27.040 --> 01:00:33.920
that pretty much wraps it up for the lan show i do want to do a call out for nerd

01:00:30.640 --> 01:00:36.079
sports guys if you haven't already uh

01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:40.160
check it out over on vessel they offer a seven day free trial night vision

01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:46.319
they offer a seven day free trial where you can see uh Linus tech tips tech

01:00:44.720 --> 01:00:50.640
quickie and Channel Super Fun content seven days ahead of time uh as well as a

01:00:49.040 --> 01:00:56.400
bunch of other creators and it should also be noted that nerd sports uh all

01:00:53.359 --> 01:00:58.240
five episodes of which are up there

01:00:56.400 --> 01:01:03.040
and for whatever reason not particularly searchable there it is

01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:09.040
it's one word apparently uh all five of which are watchable curling ice hockey

01:01:05.520 --> 01:01:11.200
dodgeball lacrosse and volleyball where

01:01:09.040 --> 01:01:15.119
we the keyboard warriors take on real athletes in the sports of their choosing

01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:20.240
the curling one was funny you guys suck you almost got it those are my uh inputs

01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:24.480
thank you you almost got there i almost got the other guys really didn't help oh

01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:27.920
my god karen what were you doing they really let me down that is not how

01:01:26.319 --> 01:01:31.920
you try to be the lead of a team they really let me down in a big way

01:01:29.839 --> 01:01:35.280
so thank you very much guys

01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:42.440
um we will see you again next week same bat

01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:42.440
time same bat channel

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foreign